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Predator: Badlands - Jennifer Lopez Was Right And So Is Dan Trachtenberg
We score Predator Badlands, argue whether a simple hero’s journey helps or hurts, and celebrate a creature-forward approach that finally trusts the predator. We toast new “listeners,” confess our vices, and then drop into lore, tropes, and ridiculous self-inserts that break the universe in fun ways.
• fan acceptance over fan service
• acting under prosthetics landing real emotion
• CGI and practical effects blending cleanly
• soundtrack as functional atmosphere
• shonen-style growth arc and clan worldbuilding
• plot simplicity vs desire for narrative ambition
• predator culture, toxic norms, matriarchal hints
• rewatchability drivers and franchise future
• wild crossovers and inserting ourselves into the hunt
Mad the rest of the fucking day, no matter what. So I'm glad that I'm able to evolve a little bit in that aspect of my life where else I was in for a long fucking ride.
SPEAKER_01:That's awesome, man. That's and that's very true. I I think a lot of us could relate to that.
SPEAKER_02:Like I I I had to be prescribed medication for that. I before before I get in the car, I take uh I take a anxiety medication so that I don't drive like a dickhead. I'm pissed off. I honestly, I honestly get that. That was another thing that Cam actually said to me not that long ago. She's like, I have to say, you used to like scream in the car, and now you don't. And I'm like, oh that's yeah, now I just say you asshole. Like it's calm. I still need to acknowledge that that guy's a piece of shit. However, I can do it calmly now. Now it's like, oh fucking idiot. That person's having a bad day.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It's usually like a fucking 04 Nissan Ultima, anyways, that is missing a boat. Like you like, they're probably in a rough position. Just let them pass.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, I've been the Nissan Ultima too.
SPEAKER_02:Don't you worry. I drove a just got rid of the disc changer in the bag. Just this year, we got rid of the 2007 Nissan Ultima. I was I was that person. You were.
SPEAKER_01:We all develop at our own rate, you know. Like the brain isn't even fully developed until you're 26. And then we could start learning. Someone argue even after.
SPEAKER_02:Who knows? Yeah, yeah. Let's bump that up to like 46. Yeah, boy. Give me some wiggle room. I sure hope so, because I need a little more development, guys. I can't I can't stop at 26. I fucked, if so. Holy shit.
SPEAKER_01:The great Jennifer Lopez once said, a man ain't shit till he's 35. And uh that pissed a lot of dudes off, but uh I wholeheartedly agree.
SPEAKER_02:Wow, dude, when I reflect on who I was at 23 versus now I'm like 23-year-old Lucas was a fucking dick face. Like relatively, right? I wasn't shit. Just as she she said, she knew.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, right. Um, so well, hey everyone, I'm your host, Ryan Baron North, with me as always, James Crosslin. Luke, this is a high and dry podcast. So we already kind of know how we're doing. Everyone's you know, surviving. We're a little healthier, a little better each day. Um so let's jump into uh this podcast for all of our thick kings out there. So, like I said, we're at the only podcast keeping alive the fandom that is the great north. If you're familiar with that.
SPEAKER_02:Hmm. The Great North. Is that was that adult animation?
SPEAKER_01:Yes. So it was so I it just recently ended, if I'm not mistaken. Um, and if it didn't end, uh there's like two people watching it. Um and it uh it was trying to ride the wave of that Bob's burger.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, I remember. I remember I watched one episode and I was like, this is a this is a lot like Bob's Burgers, which I hate. You hate Bob's Burgers? Despite it, never mind. I'm gonna go ahead and log off, guys. Bye.
SPEAKER_01:Later, Luke. So I'm your host, Grand Bear North with me as always, James. So, but no, we're not actually gonna be talking about the Great North. No one has and no one ever will. Instead, what we're gonna be talking about this week is Predator Badlands, the film of this week, and we're gonna do it in a stunning three-part method guaranteed to uh really take you to where you need to be in order to understand this film. First off, we're gonna give you the definitive score. Five out of five stars to see where it stands. Infinitely better than anything Fandango has ever produced. That's true. Then we're gonna jump onto the golden path and dive into the deeper meaning behind this action blockbuster.
SPEAKER_02:Very deep. I we've got so much to delve, so depth, so much depth. We're gonna have to take some time before we come back up to equalize, or else the nitrogen in our blood will boil.
SPEAKER_01:And you folks as well. You folks as well. I don't recommend you listen to that part while driving. And finally, the third portion of it, we're going to insert ourselves, drugs, or alcohol into the film. And what makes it so great, so special, so fun is that we are going to be doing it drunk and high. So, fellas, uh, what are you uh what are you smoking this week?
SPEAKER_02:I'll first look I actually uh don't know because it was a gift. Oh, I don't know either. Yeah, could could not tell you, uh, but I'm definitely smoking it. Hell yeah. I've got a pack of hemp. It's C BD hemp. It's got point z 0.3% THC, so insignificant. And so it's all C BD. I don't it didn't have a strain on it on the package, so it's an indica. It's just CBD.
SPEAKER_03:Sounds delicious. Fuck yeah.
SPEAKER_02:It said it's sweetened. So what are you choking back this week, Ryan?
SPEAKER_01:What am I choking back, you ask? Well, let me tell you, I am going to be enjoying the original backpacker moonshine.
SPEAKER_03:That's a jar. That's not even a jar.
SPEAKER_01:That's a joke jar. A mason jar of dark chocolate cherry moonshine. What is the what is the proof on that? So it it so compared to what I'm normally choking down, it's actually it slows down a little bit, alright? So we're looking at 50 horsepower right here. So I'm gonna.
SPEAKER_02:He's at up to 100 horsepower on here, so yeah. Well, I've done are you are you portioning it or are you trying are you gonna drink just drink from the jar?
SPEAKER_01:So I'm gonna drink from the jar. Oh no. On the side, I have a seven uh year age dry that I'll be I'll be enjoying.
unknown:What the fuck?
SPEAKER_02:Why'd the other thing eat at all? That just looks like the first thing iced.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah, I put some cubes in this. Okay. Well, I mean, that's how you should do it. Yeah. So uh that's what I'm gonna be doing. So, boys, let's line them up. That sounds something like something. This first toast, this first hit, this one goes out to our newest listeners, and our newest listeners are coming to us from oh, somebody goddamn Pyongyang, North Korea. Ita purunga. Itapuranga. Oh, from India. Yeah, yeah. That's an interesting VPN location. Yeah, nice. Uh we got a new VPN coming from India. India.
SPEAKER_02:Cheers, cheers to them. Cheers. Let me see. Is that is that India? Oh no, that's Brazil. I was mistaken.
SPEAKER_01:Oh apologies. Apologies to that VPN user.
SPEAKER_02:Brazil.
SPEAKER_03:DC's Brazil.
SPEAKER_01:So that's nice. That's uh that's smooth. Very smooth. Is it delicious though? It's very nice. It's very nice. I like I I can mix this with some uh some cherry coke or something like that. Actually, you know what I'm gonna do? That yeah seems crazy.
SPEAKER_02:I wonder if the G is pronounced differently in Portuguese. I don't know Portuguese. Let's see.
SPEAKER_01:Wait, it's yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:It might it might be like Ida Puranca. I don't know how the G is pronounced. Have it have it speak it to you. I can't Google AI definitely speaks with a perfect Portuguese accent. There's zero doubt in my mind. Well, while it doesn't have any pronunciation.
SPEAKER_01:We're looking into that. It's time for our second shot. This one goes out to the film this week. To Predator Badlands.
SPEAKER_02:To the Badlands. It was so fucking funny when you said like that we had to get we had to get get on the path to better understand this movie. That's that would crack me up.
SPEAKER_01:There's a lot of subtext. I you know, I saw Father-Son dynamics, uh, you know, there was uh I have a very deep pull that is probably not it's probably me reaching a little bit, but you know, we'll see.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. I mean that's the only thing you can do is reach.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Well, me and my moonshine are excited to talk about it. So this uh final shot, final toast, I I don't know, it's still just ringing around my head. Here's to uh Jennifer Lopez and Men Ain't Shit Till 35.
SPEAKER_02:I'm just gonna let you know that you didn't introduce the drawer of moonshine as a official guest, so he is not allowed to say anything during this podcast. I'll keep that in mind.
SPEAKER_01:I don't know. I'm the with this mixture right here went straight to my brain, and I have a feeling this moonshine's gonna be doing a lot of talking. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Maybe you should go first in the uh in the ratings category.
SPEAKER_01:Uh all right, so let's talk about well, let her rip. I don't know.
SPEAKER_02:I I being the person who loves Predator the most of all of us, you should go first. Let's know what you love about it.
SPEAKER_01:Well or hate. So what I saw in this film, I think, was and maybe this might come up later a little on when uh we get on the golden path. But um I I think we we may have hit like a positive future in filmmaking watching this guy.
SPEAKER_02:Really?
SPEAKER_01:The reason why I say that because for the first fucking time in any IP, what I saw happen right there was not fan service. It was just pure fan acceptance. It was just pure. I'm a fan of like everyone involved, like, hey, I'm a fan of Predator. We've been listening to you, this is what you want. Nothing creative is coming out of film anymore. That's done. Those days are over. Everything's a remake, everything's to sell toys. So here you go. Here's a movie of what a predator fan wants. You came here to see Predator, fucking enjoy. He's not gonna be killed off by some jackass, he's not gonna be an idiot.
SPEAKER_02:He's the first predator to ever survive.
SPEAKER_01:You're just gonna have a great time. You're gonna enjoy your IP, you're gonna sit down, and you're going to enjoy yourself. Danny Glover doesn't show up and kill someone, the predator doesn't blow its own brains off with his own helmet. That would have been pretty great. It was just it was just, hey, predator fans, have fun. Enjoy. Cheers. And what I saw was it was great. I I think I I hated that we had a fanning. Um why?
SPEAKER_02:I hate that. Just because uh Nepo baby, or yep, I hate it.
SPEAKER_01:I hate it.
SPEAKER_02:I thought she did playing it well though. But I thought I thought she was good. I thought she played it really well.
SPEAKER_01:You just it just should have been someone else. Should have been someone else. Like yeah. So again, so here's the thing.
SPEAKER_02:Here's the thing with Nepo babies, all right? Some of them have talent. It's like it's like when you it's like it's like a it's like an artisan family from the Middle Ages, where like the dad is really good at doing an art and he puts his little symbol onto every piece of armor he makes or whatever, and then he passes down all his secrets to his kids and they're really good, even though they're Nepo, even though they get the name and stuff, they can still be good at the thing.
SPEAKER_01:Well, but he but my response to that is that one, if your entire life is nothing but comfort and you decide to break into acting, if you're not good, shame on you. Sure. Like if all you've ever had to worry about was your acting class and you're bad in that movie, you should be publicly executed. Like, there is no excuse. Sure. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_02:I mean, I don't think I don't think anyone's arguing against that.
SPEAKER_01:I think that uh in the middle evil in the medieval ages, us peasants had more time off back then than we do now. Like it you know, it it's our life is nothing but struggle, their life is nothing but enjoyment and fun. Um, you know, and we went over this a lot in our previous episode with Tiana Reeves as the angel. So yeah, I I don't care.
SPEAKER_02:Um you know what's interesting? So so so listen to this. El Fanning is not actually a Nepo baby. Except her dad was just a minor league baseball player. He never got to the pros. And his mom, I mean, and her mom was nobody. She had no connection to fame whatsoever. She's actually the older sister of Dakota fan. So she is not a nephew.
SPEAKER_01:I retract my statement. Yeah, you piece of it. As a man over 35, I am capable of admitting when I was wrong.
SPEAKER_02:No, no, no, she's she's younger. My bad, she's younger. I I misread a number. She is younger. I again retract my statement. She may, she may, she, she probably got a little bit of a bump from Dakota. From a sibling. I'm okay with that. From a sibling. I'm okay with that. And like I said, I think she did very really well in this role. So, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. At least at least she's delivering.
SPEAKER_01:I love siblings rolling out to Hollywood to follow their dreams, so I'm all for it. Fuck. Okay. So I I I retract my statement. I apologize, Mrs. Fanning. Um, I do not apologize to Dakota Fanning because of her role in War of the Worlds. But Okay. That's fair. That means I like that movie. She's it's okay though. I don't care. I don't care about Dakota Fanning. It it would have made more sense if Tom Cruise just pulled over and just beat the shit out of his kids. But um, anyway. Especially the sun. And then just Dakota should have caught some smacks by proximity. So uh for that though, I uh yeah, I retract my statement. I am now happy for them. She did fantastic in this role. Um, she was delightful. The uh the predator, um I apologize, I don't have the names of all my Demetrius Matagani Ganji. So close. Kaloamatangi. Kaloamatangi uh was fantastic.
SPEAKER_02:I was He's a Nepo baby. The colo the Kaloamatangi dynasty. No, I'm just gonna get it.
SPEAKER_03:That was fucking hilarious. That was so funny.
SPEAKER_02:He's from New Zealand.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, all right, all right. So uh well, at least that's not the case. So what I so I was reading articles about him learning the Predator language, you know, doing all these things. Uh it was absolutely impressive. I thought what he brought was great. Um the only the only acting that was like eh was the villain, like the the android villain, and like the side villain, you know. But then at the same time, it's a fucking android. So for me, across the board, I had an amazing predator, I had an amazing actress who was not a Nepo baby, 4.5 for acting, nice. It's a good score. Cinematography, I thought was gorgeous. Um, this made um uh fucking uh the the the blue alien creature movie Avatar. Yeah, it looked made Avatar look like a B movie.
SPEAKER_02:So um I'm gonna say I actually you really believe that. I was actually talking with somebody today about the movie, and they had made the reference to Avatar that it was like it was on the same level of CGI and kind of the the effects that they had within the movie, but a like darker version, like like a dark eye. And I thought that was a good analogy because I thought it was really spot on. I thought it was good too. It's it's the alien world. They they successfully created an alien world.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I I thought it was gorgeous. I was enjoying the shit out of it. Um, so cinematography, CGI, um I again uh it's gonna be high here. Um I I was brought into a world 4.5, 4.5. Um soundtrack. The only reason I can mark it down is just because it wasn't the original Predator soundtrack that was so iconic. You know, my fives are reserved for Star Wars, Harry Potter, um, like those songs.
SPEAKER_02:K-pop demon hunters. K-pop demon hunters.
SPEAKER_01:Like when you hear it, you're like, yeah, that's it. Yeah, that's that's synonymous.
SPEAKER_02:So I can't give a conjuring series.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Dark commonest tones.
SPEAKER_01:I I can't tell you how often I just find myself whistling the conjuring in the shower. In the shower.
SPEAKER_02:Someone comes up to your window. Hey, is that the conjuring? You know, brother.
SPEAKER_01:Because my shower windows just open my local community. Obviously.
SPEAKER_02:I have to listen, I have to have my shower window open. For some reason, my shitty landlord didn't put a fan in my bathroom, and so I gotta leave the window open so that it doesn't mold up. So everybody hears me whistling the conjuring tune. All good, I got a fucking audience. So they all whistle along, and it's like a fucking choir outside my window while I'm showering.
SPEAKER_01:But uh, but yeah, but so like when we're talking as far as like inside the the IPs, uh a soundtrack that's great. It borrowed from the original to make me feel like I was there. It did its own thing, it brought me in. It didn't Jurassic Park uh Scarlet Johansson it where there's this random guitar that uh like so for that I give the soundtrack a four.
SPEAKER_02:Nice.
SPEAKER_01:The story plot it it was it was a basic um heroes journey. It was a basic heroes journey. It was a basic hero's journey, uh redemption arc, um shown it almost even. Almost an eastern influence, but yeah, was I was about to say or a western, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Spaghetti western.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And so nothing nothing insane here, but I didn't need it to be. I I'm here to watch the first film with zero humans in it. Right. So for that, I give it a four as well. And uh rewatchability, I'm gonna watch the shit out of this. Um, I'm gonna watch it all the time. It it's definitely a contender for the best predator movie.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, for sure. It's a contender. I agree. So right up there with the predator. Oh my god. I'm sorry, sorry, that was just a joke. Just a joke. I meant I meant I meant Alien vs. Predator 2.
SPEAKER_01:So Alien vs. Predator 2 had the best predator, worst movie.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, right. No, second, second worst movie.
SPEAKER_01:That's true. Next to the Predator, yeah. Yeah, the Predator was the worst. Yeah, rewatchability for me, and rewatchability, in my opinion, is our most uh subjective, but for me, five. I'm gonna watch this all the fucking time.
SPEAKER_02:Very strong. I like the very strong. Now, now so so we started with Ryan, who has seen and re-watched all of the Predator movies, even the bad ones. Read the books, read read the books, played, played the video games where he was the predator. He's he's done he's done all the predator media. Now, Luke, what is your experience with the predator? So for those of you who uh the first episode that I was actually ever on was one of the alien movies. I think it was Covenant. Uh that's right. Maybe it was Romulus. No, it wasn't Romulus. It was definitely one of the older movies. Yeah, really? Old or new, yeah. Yes, that was, I think, believe my first episode on. As a host. Interesting. Yes, yes. It might not have been, yeah. I think you guys asked me to guest on one before that, and then as a host, you guys asked me. It may have been just the original alien movie. It may have just been until it was either cut it was chronologically, it was the very first movie. Prometheus. Prometheus, that was it. Prometheus. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. September 9th, 2024.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. Okay. So that was the movie that kind of introduced me into this franchise. I had never watched anything until that day. I watched that movie and I kind of dove into the entire universe and I'd watched quite a bit, but I I watched Alien vs. Predator. I'd watched Predators. And then I've watched Alien vs. Predator Reunion.
unknown:Oh.
SPEAKER_02:Wait, Requiem? Probably not. Yeah. Requiem, sorry. It looks like it's a small, it's a small, it's a small word. I couldn't read it like that.
SPEAKER_01:I'd watch Alien vs. Predator Reunion, for sure. I agree. I agree. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:They both go to their like what what have you been up to? You can't ask me that, man. And then I've watched the uh more recently Prey, um, and then the the animated series, um Predator Pred, I can't remember what the name of the film is. Cinematically killers.
SPEAKER_01:Cinematically, you're you're relatively well versed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so I've watched a decent amount of it. And honestly, when I when I first watched the Predator movies, um after watching, I kind of dove into Alien First. Um they didn't land that well with me. They were kind of fun, but not like nothing that I was like, oh my god, yeah. Like they were fun movies, if I like you, like I didn't feel like they had depth, which this doesn't have that much, but I feel like more. It's a better story. They did a good job storytelling. But I really liked um, and the director who directed this movie did the first two. Um oh, you guys do really like the original movies? Was that crazy to say? Uh I like the original Predator a lot. Uh I also like the original Alien a lot. I think those are. I love some of it.
SPEAKER_03:I love Alien.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, I was gonna say, like, Alien 1979. Oh, we've I misunderstood. I misunderstood. Alien, the alien first original Alien movie was probably my tip-toe into more horror. Because when I first watched it, I was literally like, oh, this, and then I was I fell in love with that's what really meant.
SPEAKER_01:And then I watched Alien, I'm sitting here thinking, like, wait, you didn't like the first alien movie.
SPEAKER_02:I'm talking about the predatory change. Is a little bit less serious and not as like they're just kind of like fun movies. Yeah, alien movies. You got Arnie shooting from the hip. Yeah. Um but fun, like they still are fun. Yeah, sure. I guess it was just a different speed from coming off of the alien franchise that I had like obviously it's kind of coexist, but like I had just come off that and I was like, oh. Um, but this director, um Dan, oh, I don't want to mess Trachtenberg. Trachtenberg, yeah. Trachtenberg. Trachtenberg he's revitalized. The recent thing. Killer of Killers, he did Prey, and he's done now Predator Badlands. Um, and I I really like his vision for the franchise, and I think he's doing a pretty good job. Um this this cast to get onto my scores um was pretty limited, right? Like there wasn't a lot of characters in this movie. Um, it was kind, you know, Dad, the brother Kwai, the the main, the main I can't remember the character's name. Deck. Um should that should have been an easy one to remember. Deck, Thea, and then um Jenna, Anna, something like that. Whatever the other AI bot's name was. Yeah, whatever. So there wasn't there wasn't a lot um of characters. Small cast. Yeah, but I think they all did well. I actually got a lot of emotion from um the predator. I don't know if that was due to special effects or if that was like kind of a mix of of the acting and stuff, but I felt like I got emotion through something that isn't real, which is kind of cool. Um it's overlay. It's a combination.
SPEAKER_01:Um they showed the prosthetic mask that he was wearing, and him and Eli Fanning actually did a um a thing together where they were singing, and you could see how articulating his mask was as he did it, and he's like, Yeah, he's the predators rapping. Um worked really well. So a lot of it was his emotion.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they did it like Jurassic Park, which you know pioneered the technology of taking animatronics or puppets or or special effects and overlaying physical special effects with CGI to make it. And even now, Jurassic Park, the scenes of the Tyrannosaurus Rex when it's a fucking puppet like with CGI over it, are so good. Like just like Alien Romulus, which they did the same thing, a lot of like practical effects that they laid CGI, and it looked just fucking awesome, like super good. So um, but I gave the acting a 4.5 as well. I thought it was really good. Like I said, I I really it really landed with me the fact that I was getting emotion through these like um alien creatures, um, which was cool. Um, and that might kind of goes into the next score, cinematography and CGI. Um, the only kind of takeaway I had was like I always think to myself, man, uh every planet that ever anyone goes to just looks like rural somewhere on Earth. Like, and it's because it is. They're using those real places, but you know, there was a shot where they're waterfalling, I'm like, that looks so like Earth. Like they didn't do felt like they didn't do a great job of like, and I don't know if that is due to cinematography or more that's like set choice, but I kind of tie them together. So I gave that a uh a four a 4.5. I didn't give it a perfect five. I really for a movie that relies so heavily on CGI, I really raised that up because they they fucking killed it, and it looked really, really good. It did look good, yeah. Score soundtrack. I didn't kind of I obviously got some of the original original songs, and I I, you know, cool tribute, but other than that, I didn't really remember all too much. Like it was good, it definitely set tones, it did what it was supposed to, but I didn't think it like really set the bar uh to the next level. I'll give it a 3.5. Story plot, I liked a lot. I love a shonen arc, so it works for me. Hell yeah. Um it's something that I love something where it's like, oh, I'm not strong enough. Goes out, goes through like a a condition where it gets him stronger and he becomes believe it.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like believe it. You better believe it.
SPEAKER_01:Like you know, these stories have been working for thousands of years because we resonate, they resonate, and it was fun.
SPEAKER_02:I really, you know, it gave me I like I said, I really I I kind of thought of a shown in anime. That was what I thought of when I got out of the theater. Yeah, it's Naruto. Yeah, it was. It was literally like, oh no, my brothers died. Now I have to go through adversity and grow as an individual and strength. Everybody keeps making fun of me, nobody likes me, I gotta earn their respects. I'm deck, I have a dead brother. Like it just it's it's uh it's a shonen. So and I'll approve myself, yeah. And then he shows up and then so I uh but I really liked it. Uh for its simplicity, it does what it's supposed to do. Um, I think that it is a extremely cool concept. They did good world building. I felt like I really was into the whole storyline of the clans. Um, and it was, you know, like I I want to me, I was like, oh, that's a clan. Give me I want more. I want to know like all over the earth and like what it's about. Um so yeah, I gave the story a four and pause. What's up, Ray? Is it recording?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, we're good. We're good.
SPEAKER_02:Okay, okay. I just wanted to make sure you saw you were typing. I was like, oh no, oh no. Oh no, no, we're all as well. All is your shirt, I just don't see our bars moving. You guys do see 'em. Yeah, I see bars moving. Cool. That's just on the side then. Okay, just want to make sure. Don't want to fiasco again. So, anyways, so last, lastly, the rewatchability. I think that I'm definitely gonna watch this again, and especially this. New little world that is kind of being created. I don't know if it's gonna tie together, but I have a feeling that we're going to go. It definitely was. And it's de uh this scene. This wasn't a movie where I'm like, fuck, I'd have to watch it again so to understand. No. It's like, ooh, the next one's coming out. Let me get like re rewatch this real quick to make sure I they struck gold and they know they did. Yeah. I I'm a big fan, and I hope that I hope that um Dan Trachtenberg continues to produce the track direction.
SPEAKER_01:Trackberg did Prey, and Prey was uh Hulu release. Yeah, and then it did so well that they made Badlands like this is coming to theaters. Yeah, and now Badlands is fucking killing, and then Killer of Killers is the highest rated Predator movie across the board.
SPEAKER_02:Um so yeah, he's uh and Dan Trachtenberg did that one as well, which is like insane.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, he he's he's living high right now. He revitalized Predator, and I love him for it. I never cared about Arnie, I cared about the Predator. I've been obsessed with the Predator, and I'm so happy to finally have him back. 100%.
SPEAKER_02:Um but I give it a four because I just I can't I can't say I'm gonna watch it every single year. I will continue to watch this movie at times, especially when I just dive into the universe again. Because the the alien, and that might be, you know, alien might carry that a little bit, but um I can't say that I that's something I'll watch all the time. But yeah, really, I really enjoyed this one. I was I was happy to come out of it.
SPEAKER_01:I was nervous going in because of the preview, and I just wanted to it looked good, but you know, they can fuck this stuff up, and they did if they give Trachtenberg a a Bad Lands 2 and we see a more evolved DAC, and now like he's got kids, and the universe is.
SPEAKER_02:His clan's grown. His clan might have grown.
SPEAKER_01:Would that ex would that extend your rewatchability beyond four for this?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I think the four, not many movies go above like a 3.3 really for rewatchability. So for it to get a four is basic, you know, anything above a four for me is like probably watching. You love that movie. So yeah, like something something I'm gonna probably watch at least once a year. Something I'm watching, you know, mid throw on a couple times a year might be a five, or even once a year solidly, like at a certain time. But like, yeah. So a four above a four is hard for me, but I think it's a really good score on rewatchability for me. Because like movies are hard to rewatch. For you to want to re-watch something is like impressive. Like that really is. And that's why I like it in our scoring. Because like, man, it really shows that, like, oh, not only did that person consume it, think it was a good film, they think it's just a good movie, and they enjoy it and it gives them soul. I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:And that's what puts us miles ahead of.
SPEAKER_02:That's Fandago's not considering rewatchability, I'm telling you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, Fandago isn't considering anything, so fuck.
SPEAKER_02:They're inconsiderate. Well, I'm excited to hear your score, James scores, James. Please. I can't imagine you're like super far off, but who knows? Well, let me give you a little information about my experience with the Predator franchise and the Alien franchise. Okay. So the first movie I saw of either of them was Alien vs. Predator. Oh, okay. But I liked Alien vs. Predator. I watched that movie a bunch of times. I was like, whoa, these fucking monsters are super cool, and that's all I wanted.
SPEAKER_01:I liked it on later on watching. It just wasn't as a predator fan for me, it just wasn't what we were craving as Predator fans. I wasn't a predator fan.
SPEAKER_03:So for me, so for me, I was like, shit, these guys are fucking dope. Like super cool.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, so I enjoyed it. I didn't care much. Yeah, but I I actually compare it a little like story story-wise, you know, the amount of like thought that went into the story. They're both real basic. And so for me, it it's like it's like a return to the kind of basic story, shows some cool predator shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And and and yeah, that's cool. Yeah, some CPS. Yeah, yeah, cool predator shit, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, CPS. And and but like, but then I went back and I hadn't seen Predator until we did the podcast for it. Like, that was I I hadn't seen Predator until that point. No shit. No shit. I had seen Alien versus Predator 2 before that. That's that's how much predator experience I have. But of course, like then I went back and saw Alien and love that. Uh, you know, went from there, hated Aliens, uh Alien. Uh the third one, that was Resurrection. No, no, no. The third one was Alien just Alien 3. Yeah, that one was that was what, David Fenture? That one was pretty good. Uh the Resurrection. What'd you say?
SPEAKER_01:The Prison Planet.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, the Prison Planet one. I enjoyed that more than Aliens. Uh Resurrection, real weird. I don't know how I feel about that one.
SPEAKER_01:No one does.
SPEAKER_02:And then uh The Prometheus and all those. I was kind of indifferent. I thought they were interesting to a point. You can go back and listen to our episodes on those. Yeah. Romulus, I enjoyed. I also thought plot was fairly simple again, but it also mirrored that one role-playing book that came out for Alien, which was very fun. I enjoyed playing that one. Uh I think it might have been like a direct port of it. I think was that like the story from the book? Pretty much. Uh for Predator, like Predator 2. I watched that leading up to this. I had never really watched the whole thing before. I'd maybe seen a few scenes. That one is like a conservative's fucking erotic, like like erotica. They fucking jerk off to that movie every weekend.
SPEAKER_01:Except uh Danny's in there and uh a certain aspect they don't enjoy.
SPEAKER_02:No, they love when a black people's willing black person is willing to shoot other minorities for them.
SPEAKER_01:Like they love. And his boss, his boss, his boss was white, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was getting ordered, he was getting ordered around by a white man, and that's okay. Yeah. That was awful. I didn't I didn't like predators. Predators, like, I liked predators. I saw predators before I saw Predator. Predators, to me, I was like, damn, that's some good shit.
SPEAKER_01:It was.
SPEAKER_02:And Predator fans agree with you. Walton Goggins. He makes that just a crazy, a crazy hillbilly.
SPEAKER_01:Fucking prison shanking a predator. Prison shanking a predator.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, that show is real funny. He makes that movie. Let's see. So yeah, so I have some experience with Predator and Alien, and um yeah, I really the the Predator was really bad, maybe. That was the one where uh autism was human evolution, and so he had to go hunt down the autistic person because they're natural predators.
SPEAKER_00:And I was like, what the as you do.
SPEAKER_03:What the fuck?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, and no one, no one saw that as problematic from cyberboard to like on so many people's desks, and not a single person was like, hold on a second. Jesus Christ. Oh my god. That was that was the worst Predator movie of all time.
SPEAKER_02:Oh my god. Uh so this one, I thought the acting, yeah, I thought the acting was bad in the predator also, but the acting in this one, good. I really liked the acting. I liked I agree with Luke that we got really good uh emotion from even through Predator prosthetics, you know. Uh I thought L. Fanning was really good in both roles as someone who's like darkly detached and and someone who is like newly discovering emotion. I feel like yeah, I feel like the acting was really good. I'm gonna give it a I'm gonna give it a four. I don't think it was as revolutionary as you guys thought it was, but I think it I'm still gonna give it a four. For cinematography and CGI, I thought the CGI was exceptional. I thought they did a really good job of making an alien world. There's like there's like a thing on Netflix that I think is just called Alien Worlds or something like that, or strange worlds, and and they don't even have a plot, it's just them coming up with alien worlds, and then and and uh and I felt like this was even better than that. And I definitely think it was better. I went to go see Avatar Way of Water and it's re-released because I because I planned because I never saw it. I never saw the second one. I was like, Oh, really? Okay, yeah, I'll go see it. So I saw that recently, and like by the time it was over, I was like, oh, I'm so fucking tired of this. Oh my god, I know I'm so tired of this world, it's so fucking boring. Um, and we liked Way of the Water. At least I remember liking it. Yeah, I I don't I could be missing a watch. By like the two-hour mark, I was like, Can we just fucking end this movie already? Um I'm I'm gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01:So you're not looking forward to comparing to the first one. Like the first one, like the first one was introducing us to the world, and there was like yeah, yeah. I like that one. The second one is like I've already seen the world, and you introduce this really lame fucking plot to it. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:But now they're introducing you to the water world. Can't wait. It wasn't enough. I even I and listen, and listen, I'm someone who loves the water. I go like diving and spear fishing, and it's like I that's like one of my favorite fucking things in the world. And I really liked how they like showed diving, and now they're like, you really gotta relax, and it's all about focus, and it's all about like feeling the water. And I thought that was really cool. And they took they went too long, it was too long with all that shit for real. And this relates to Predator because Predator, because Predator like it, it did the right amount of time on these things. We didn't like fucking linger. We did the thing, we were there for a reason, we saw the important, cool shit, and then it was like, All right, moving on to the next thing. We didn't just sit there and keep we didn't keep coming back to it and have to relearn it again and shit, which we were doing the same thing like four times in Avatar.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, the world builder wasn't just jacking off on screen, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, they're they were like, No, we did this for a reason. We like the the we put shit in here for a reason. We and and they came back and collected everything to use it, you know, in an interesting new way. So I found that very cool. Uh, and so for cinematography, I'm gonna give this 4.5. I actually really look forward to sitting down like with my Dolby vision and being able to control the the contrast. Some scenes were too dark for me, which is why it's not getting a five. Like some scenes were so dark that I couldn't see what was happening sometimes. Um uh score and soundtrack, I'm gonna give it 3.5. I don't remember much. I need to, I I need to remember to pay attention to that. Um, story and plot. This is where I kind of diverged from you guys because I was when when I left the theater, I was like, that was I enjoyed myself with this movie, but man, I was like that plot was bare bones. That's what it felt like to me. I was like, this that was just a hero's journey. That was like the most basic hero's journey that you could get, and then they and then they put it in an environment, you know, and the environment was really cool, but that's like cinematography, and that's you know, acting, and it's those things combined that make the environment cool. Yeah, so this one was not as good for me. I'm actually gonna give the story a three. Uh it's it's really just a hero's journey, and it's done competently. It's done competently. But when I left the theater, I was like disappointed in that. And and and you know, I'm glad I had a little time to mull to mole on it because I do enjoy the movie. I did enjoy the movie, but it left me feeling like, damn, they could have done something interesting with story. And for rewatchability, uh I'm probably less likely to re-watch this a bunch of times uh just because of that plot issue. I can only sit and look at a cool, interesting world for so long or so many times, like with Avatar, where I was just like so. For this one, I'm probably I'm gonna give it a three where I will re-watch it at least once to uh because I want to see it in Dolby and I want to be able to turn the brightness up on those dark scenes. But I don't know if I'm gonna watch this a bunch of times.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, all right. Well, hey, still let's so I'm I'm really anxious to see what we got here because this is.
SPEAKER_02:That's really good. Right where I thought it was gonna land, if I'm honest with you.
SPEAKER_01:Um which is super fucking strong.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, super strong for a for a basic Western or shonen or just heroes journey. Yeah, the basicist with a with a with a really nice rapper. It got a four out of five. That's pretty amazing. Think about what they could do if they did like an innovative story, like that could be a five, you know. And that's and I do agree that that's kind of where it was missing a little bit, was the innovative story.
SPEAKER_01:I'd like to talk about that and on the golden path. Let's do it. But before we do that, it's time to get a little more drunk, it's time to be a little more high. Let me crack my shine.
SPEAKER_02:Here's to a four. It is. Shinecracker sounds kind of like a slur.
SPEAKER_01:Take this, you filthy shinecracker.
SPEAKER_03:Cheers. Cheers to that, I guess.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god. It's just an Appalachian white man.
SPEAKER_02:Shinecracker. You don't gotta put labels on it. Any anybody can be a shinecracker.
SPEAKER_01:All right. So welcome to the second piece of this. It's time now to dive into the deeper aspects of this. And I feel that the film itself doesn't offer that.
SPEAKER_00:What I that's true.
SPEAKER_03:But what I that's why I was laughing so much at the beginning. Like as soon as you said the deeper video, I was like, There's there's not.
SPEAKER_01:There's not. But what I think this is there is one though. I did go. Oh, go, you go, you go, you go. I got one. Well, what I think this is though, is just fucking finally someone laid some groundwork, listen, like they they went under Reddit. They looked and saw like what we've been saying for 20 years now about the predator franchise is that we just want to follow a predator. And then Fox 20th Century Fox comes and says, No, you will follow a high school student, and he will occasionally encounter a predator. Thank God.
SPEAKER_03:Are you sure he will encounter a predator?
SPEAKER_01:Only at the end. And it's a silhouette in the design. And then, oh, you don't want a predator, you want another action hero who has an autistic son, and it's the autistic people that are the real predators.
SPEAKER_02:I think this is you think you know, I I really just want to get the point through that it's okay to kill autistic people. They're threats, every single one of them.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, this this thing was written, but that that movie was written by fucking RFK. But what what I think is is that we finally have a movie that is just it just gave us what we fucking wanted. Like, I don't want all this crap. I like the the reason why Predator One worked, and the reason what Predator One was trying to do, they why they brought all these action heroes in, why they gave them those 80s tropes, was to have a monster that just wiped through those heroes that they had been rooting for for nine years at that point, like they were nothing.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:You had hip shooting, you had fucking Jesse the body ventura brought a minigun on a stealth mission, yeah. And this creature just like it was nothing to him at all.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah. And you know, you know what's funny? I and I didn't know this going into Predator that it was a dust till dawn situation. Like, I didn't know that. I thought that was really cool. It was like way earlier than from Dust Till Dawn. Uh and yeah, they just introduced itself as a regular action movie, and then all of a sudden there's a fucking alien killing people.
SPEAKER_01:That's slaughtering the point. That was the point. That was the genius. I mean, we all know that Quentin Tarantino hasn't had an original thought in his fucking life. He just takes someone else's thoughts and slows them down to a painful crawl.
SPEAKER_02:And then has uh Steve Buscemi say them out loud in conversation or whatever. Harvey Kaitel, probably more likely.
SPEAKER_01:Well, yeah, Harvey Kaitel, and there's a foot involved. That's all quite chokes a woman. Yeah, yeah, it's all great. But uh that's what the first one was. It was hey, here's all your 80s action here that you guys have been worshipping. This creature doesn't give a fuck. He slaughters them. And uh that's what it was. And but then what they did there was they in the rest of us, like the at the time you got the 80s, and like the nerds are still this pushed under you know group of people. And we've since found that they're all basically insults, but we found like the situation was that there was a group of people like, I don't care about the heroes anymore. He killed them all. Tell me more about this creature. And for 40 years, we've been like, hey, just show us the creature. That's all we've been asking for. And then all of a sudden the Trachtenberg's like, All right, there you go. There's a movie about him. Enjoy, fucking enjoy. And what I think we have here is a green light for other IPs. So imagine your favorite IP. If it's not the predator, great, like whatever it is. Now imagine your IP finally just gets a story the way you want. Yeah, and I think a predator in it.
SPEAKER_02:Whatever I dude, I want to see Marvel vs. Predator.
SPEAKER_01:I want to see uh Harry Potter versus the Predator.
SPEAKER_02:I want to I want to see the zookeeper's wife versus the predator.
SPEAKER_01:Paul Blart versus the Predator. Like I think I think every film now, just based off of the success of this film, will have a predator. And I'm I'm thrilled to see it. I'm excited. I can't wait for the new era of media. The next uh the next uh knives out film outing will win it.
SPEAKER_02:There's a trailer. There's a trailer where he and and they tell you the plot is he goes into a locked room, and then like 30 seconds later, he's dead. It's gotta be the predator. It's invisible.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, so yeah, it's it's gonna be uh uh you know James Bond versus the predator. It's gonna be great. Like the future of media we're being haunted, and audiences across the world are like, yeah, he's back, baby.
SPEAKER_02:Cars for McQueen versus Predator.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. And the Predator keeps winning. Like every movie, the Predator pulls it out, and we're just yes. Cheers. Five stars, five stars. The good guys win.
SPEAKER_02:Um I do I will say though, I I get kind of get your point where you're you're saying where Hollywood just sometimes doesn't get the fucking point, and they make this content. I think I think we were really let down by Jurassic World or Jurassic Play and Justin and it, you know, this was almost like a a palette cleanser for that for me, because um it I felt like it was like like Ryan said, I get uh I feel like you really understand like what they've done with it, and like um your appreciation makes me, you know, even see it in a brighter light. But I think like it's sick that they have made good content. It seems like Trachtenberg really wants to do very well with this franchise and not just make bullshit about like like like we want to see the predator. That's the coolest part about Predator is give us the predator.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like what the fuck? Give us the predator, yeah. What's that? What was that? What's the guy's name who used to host that show? Uh I have no idea. Chris Hansen.
SPEAKER_02:Chris Hansen, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Chris Hansen versus the predator. Could you take a seat for a moment? Invisible.
SPEAKER_01:And then you see the three dots to the move. Then a bunch of sheriff's officers come out and tackle it.
SPEAKER_03:You just start slaughtering all these cops, though, because it's still the fucking predator.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, you know, one thing I'm really happy about is it was that kind of predator and not the Chris Hansen type of predator. Makes the movie good.
SPEAKER_01:But like, but like, so you take uh AVP two, and whoever fucking wrote that thought like Predator fans wanted to follow a high school student as he figures out his coming of age in a war-torn area where predators and aliens are fighting. Like, no. Then who then whoever made Predators with Adrian Brody was like, Predator fans want to return to the first Predator, which made a very solid film, but didn't quite get what we wanted. And then finally, for the first time across a dozen movies, um, we finally have like, oh, you just want to watch the predator, you want to be over the predator's fucking shoulder. Like, yes, and I think that's true for most IPs, is that we just want to be over the shoulder of this character that we fucking love.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Like if you're just like just like I Frankenstein. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Which was the fancy. Five out of five. Aaron Eckhart killed it. Sweet knives, bro. Uh, but you also need a visionary to help. But uh, you know.
SPEAKER_02:So I do have some some tropes that we can discuss really quick for this. So we've got uh we've got the predator was inside you all along. We got that one.
SPEAKER_00:Yep.
SPEAKER_02:Uh we got uh maybe the real predator was the friends we made along the way. Got that one.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, there it was.
SPEAKER_02:We can we can keep going. Yeah, we got uh what's the one? Uh sure, you the mini predator. You he only killed the mini predator, and then at the end the big the the the boss the the main boss predator shows up. Got that? Uh I don't know, that's actually all I got.
SPEAKER_01:At the end of the day, we just wanted to see a fucking predator.
SPEAKER_02:Um the deeper meaning of this movie is really the fact that Deck overcomes generational toxic masculinity um and shows his father it's not more toxically masculine. Yeah. No, no, no. He he makes friends, he he he's no longer predator who hunts alone. Yeah. So you know, he breaks that generational toxic masculinity by murdering his father, which is obviously what you have to do to break that cycle. This is actually the transition into the Pirates of the Caribbean universe, where you take take what you want and give nothing back.
SPEAKER_00:That's a dear person of predator.
SPEAKER_02:And then so they start the pirate ship, like it's a pirate ship now, and then we go across the universe doing pirate stuff. Love it. Five stars.
SPEAKER_03:But yeah, and that's that but that is the that's the deeper, you know.
SPEAKER_02:I saw it, I say it jokingly, it kind of like does explore that fucking like that like this is like a very toxic culture, not necessarily toxic masculinity, but just like the predator culture. It's just different. Like calling pulling your children fucking crazy, all right? Like that should not be like I I understand you guys want to go on the hunt, but like fucking Christ, like just because your son can't murder an all-knowing beast that can't die, he he now can't be your son. Like, I you know, just to I don't know.
SPEAKER_01:A lot of that was countered. A lot of that was countered at the end when the other ship shows up and Dak goes, that's my mom. Predator fans will know that um the male predators do the hunting because they need to get the fuck off of their planet. Because as soon as the females go into heat, they start killing all the males.
SPEAKER_03:Do they have sex with them before or after?
SPEAKER_02:Both like pregmatises. The predator system before I go is matriarchal.
SPEAKER_01:And the female predators don't bother with the hunting because they have other shit to do. Um fucking killing their own kind.
SPEAKER_02:They're hunting still. Very tight gender roles. It's not great for a society. Even worse societally, really. Like, this society needs just billions of years of growth before it's ever gonna be able to live um in a cohesive. They keep destroying themselves, like they killed the floor.
SPEAKER_01:I don't want to go into the I I don't want to get into the full detail. Like, I'll I I'm the culture stagnated. Well, I'll start another podcast, uh Ryan Baron's The Predator, to wash some bad taste out of the mouth and uh really just dive into this that I've been learning since I was nine. But uh anyway, it's time now to jump into the third portion of this thing. It is time to insert ourselves into this film. How does it change when you gentlemen enter this movie? What happens? Yeah, how does it go? Am I a human? You're whatever you want to be. You you are the producer that uh has wiped his ass with every movie so far where fans are like, please just show me what I want, and he's like, No, you get a teenager, no, you get Adrian Brody, no, autism people are predators. You can do whatever you want. Like I'm inserting myself as Mama Predator. I don't like how do you appear in this film? Luke?
SPEAKER_02:You go first, Luke. Or do you want to do you want to pass for now? I can't say that like the only thing that I can think of is that I would be somebody who was on that ship with the AI bots, and then because they think I'm an AI bot, and I'm too scared to pretend I'm not, so I'm just pretending to be an AI bot on this ship. Just like yes, you're like the specimen. That gif of John Travolta from Pulp Sh Pulp Fiction with the code over his eye looking around.
SPEAKER_03:Like, yeah, I'm I'm I'm in a I'm also uh wanting to find the specimen. Yes, yes.
SPEAKER_02:Uh just pretending to just contrying to keep my shit together. I must recharge my batteries, yeah. And then every time I say that, I just go in a closet and I just like take a couple rips of the pen and then fucking come back out, like chill.
SPEAKER_03:Oh wow, guys, how are we doing? Yeah, man. Oh, yeah. Eat a couple of the protein bars.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_03:You guys, you guys hungry?
SPEAKER_02:No, me either. No, I'm not either. I just but if if we did know somebody was hungry, where could you find some food? Yeah, I I'm not, I'm like you guys. I don't need to eat. So, and that would it would just be me on the ship, uh, scared as fuck. You know, like they're all shooting guns. Uh, when when uh what's her Tessa comes out uh of the ship and she's like hunting them down and she's got her little androids next to her with the guns. I'd be with one of them and be like, Holy fucking shit guys, like you guys just the trees are attacking us. Like, I'm freaked out, barely getting by. Just in the background of pretty much the whole movie.
SPEAKER_01:I like it. I like it. Well uh well James, how uh how would you uh how would you jump into this thing? Sure.
SPEAKER_02:So I would also be a predator. I would go I I I would I would go there to help deck. I'd be like cousin Shmey and Shmaims cousin.
SPEAKER_03:I like Schmaims.
SPEAKER_02:So I'm I'm cousin Shmaimes C H E I M S. Shmaims. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's perfect. So I go so I land on the planet. I don't land anywhere near where Deck landed. Do you crash like he does, or do you like land this bitch? No, no, no. I purposely land. I'm but I'm looking at the landscape from above, right? And so I so I land on that plateau that we see like right at the beginning. Like you know how you know how right before it says Predator Bad lands. Yeah. You know, it has that has that view.
SPEAKER_03:I land on top of that rock, and as soon as I land, that fucking worm, the giant worm hanging from the rock, wraps around and eats me.
SPEAKER_02:And then that's and that's where my story ends.
SPEAKER_03:Oh no. Dex never goes.
SPEAKER_02:I don't even get I don't even get to see anything interesting. It's just this planet is like fucking kryptonite to our people. Oh no. That's it. Okay. That's all right. I would like that. That adds a just a nice little comedy, comedic relief right there. He finds he finds my ship later and he's like, what the fuck is this?
SPEAKER_01:Never to discover what that was.
SPEAKER_02:Oh no! Shmaimes was weak. Oh, that's how he got out because his other ship was wrecked. So I I was confused how he fucking got out of the planet. So I'm glad that he found your ship. That's how that's how he got out of there. He took the you want, I mean he took the Whalen Utani ship off the planet.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, is that what he took?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03:Okay, okay.
SPEAKER_01:All right, well, uh he can take my ship. Well, for me, uh, I would say my so Predator is probably my second favorite creature next to vampires. And in a uh a new world where we're finally doing what we're supposed to with IPs, and this is probably a controversial opinion. It was the last time I put it on social media. There has never been a good vampire movie made fucking ever. And like Lost Boys was trash, uh Dust Till Dawn, trash, interview with a vampire, trash.
SPEAKER_02:What about John Carpenter's vampires?
SPEAKER_01:Uh not even James Woods could save it, but I fucking eclipse. It was it was all Nepo trash.
SPEAKER_02:Uh what about the what about the Dracula with Keanu Reeves?
SPEAKER_01:That was oh my gosh. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_02:So there's a werewolf fuck scene in that one.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, so terrible. So terrible. And and and any and I I actually posted this once uh threads, I think it was. I said there's never been a good vampire movie. And I had everyone coming in, like, well, what about fucking this and that? Like, they were terrible movies. They were terrible movies, and like I appreciate that you saw them at a time in your life where you were impressionable, but that doesn't make it a good film. Um, and so what about the underworld prequel? But since we're reinventing IPs, I am now going to enter the predator universe as vampire versus predator.
SPEAKER_03:Perfect.
SPEAKER_01:Are you choosing any specific vampire IP or is it just vampire? Just vampire. Like, this is going to be the new IP that like wrestles the reins from everyone else. And together, me and the predator are going to kill Ron Weasley of Harry Potter.
SPEAKER_02:The Predator goes around to every franchise and picks the most the most deadly thing from each of those franchises. You get like a Dementor, and you get like a fucking dragon from Game of Thrones, and you get you have this entire team of just the worst monsters.
SPEAKER_01:And it's just me, the vampire, and Dak the Predator, like let's kill these things. And he's like, and off we go.
SPEAKER_02:It turns out he just makes friends of all of them.
SPEAKER_01:Like, God damn it, Dak.
SPEAKER_02:Listen, I make friends now.
SPEAKER_01:Jesus Christ, Dak. Yeah. And uh and that'll be like our thing, you know, like back to back, arms crossed, damn it, Dak.
SPEAKER_02:And then then and then you jump on the whale thing from Avatar and suck its life force out.
SPEAKER_01:Oh yeah. Oh yeah. We we fuck up Avatar, we fuck up Harry Potter, we fuck up uh Alien, we fuck uh just all of it. All of it. We're there. Uh Marvel? Marvel. Oh yeah. Scare Bears. Like all of it.
SPEAKER_03:My little pony?
SPEAKER_01:Just vampires and the predator is the wave of the future. We've been struggling to accept vampires since Twilight, and guess what? We're back now, and we're teaming up with the predator for a worldwide tour.
SPEAKER_03:I enjoy the Twilight films every so often.
SPEAKER_02:No cringy bad, but it is fun to watch.
SPEAKER_03:Say what you want.
SPEAKER_02:I'll watch it every so often with say what's CGI baby that an adult is in love with.
SPEAKER_03:It's like funny how bad it is. Like you can't like it's like fun to watch in that aspect. It's bad.
SPEAKER_02:And then an adult man is like, one day, I will fuck this baby.
SPEAKER_01:So I'm your host, Ryan Barron North. With me as always, James Groslin, Luke. Join us next week as we finally dissect the Twilight series.
SPEAKER_03:I cannot wait. All of them.
SPEAKER_01:All of them. Yeah, we're doing them all. All of them. One go. One go. One giant episode. Can't wait. Buckle up, folks. Alright, we're out of here. Um, yeah. Just we're not going to advertise this thing. We're just going to end it.
