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Weapons: Gladys' Night
We dive into Zach Cregger's latest horror film "Weapons," a twisted tale about a small town where multiple children mysteriously disappear simultaneously, leaving only one student behind.
• Josh Brolin delivers a standout performance as a desperate father searching for answers
• The film brilliantly uses multiple character perspectives to gradually reveal its supernatural mystery
• A witch has infiltrated the town, using mind control and manipulation to pursue her sinister agenda
• Every character harbors personal flaws and addictions that blind them to the danger until it's too late
• The cinematography creates persistent tension through innovative camera work and thoughtful framing
• Benedict Wong's character represents one of the few moral anchors in a town descending into chaos
• Scenes like the hair-cutting sequence create profound unease without relying on traditional jump scares
• The 217 reference and AK-47 dream sequence sparked intense debate about their symbolic meaning
• Each character story reveals another puzzle piece, culminating in the final revelation through Alex's eyes
• The film earns its 4/5 rating through strong performances, atmospheric direction, and genuine scares
If you enjoyed our review of "Weapons," be sure to check it out in theaters while you can for the full experience. This is one horror film that deserves to be seen on the big screen!
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Speaker 1:Uh, I'm your host, you oh my god, I can't believe you brought up I love review. Well, I'm your host Review.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, gilly, you brought up. I love Review. Well, I'm your host. Ryan Baron, northwood. As always, james Crossland, luke.
Speaker 1:Yeah, review One star Do not recommend. But for that show, actually a fan of it this time, the best episode of that show is one where they ask him to review what it's like to eat 15 pancakes. So that's how the episode starts. They ask him to eat 15 pancakes and in the middle he gets someone who asks him what divorce is like. So he has to get divorced. And and then someone asks us ask him what it's like to eat 30 pancakes. So if you do pancakes, divorce pancakes. It's on YouTube. Great, it's fucking fantastic. Go watch it. Best bit of comedy in like the last 20 years. Fucking love it. Okay, all right, andy Daly. Andy Daly is so good.
Speaker 2:I think that's one of the positive reviews we have on that little opening gag of ours.
Speaker 1:Actually good show.
Speaker 2:Well, hey, there you go. Well, for those of you guys joining us for the first time, we're not actually talking about review. We are going to be doing some reviews. Now I kind of want to. We're actually going to be reviewing the film Weapons a new one that just came out and saw that bad boy in theaters this weekend. It was a ride. And we're going to do it in a three-part method. First, we're going to give you the definitive ranking out of five stars on this piece of cinema, and then we're going to dive into some of the higher concepts. We're jumping on the golden path to discuss what we may have missed, and then, finally, we're going to insert ourselves drugs or alcohol into the movie. And what makes it so special, so fun, just so magical, is that we're going to be doing it drunk and high. So if you're driving to work this Monday morning, go ahead, pull over. It's time for some shots. Fellas, what are you guys smoking this week?
Speaker 1:Our listeners have it right up in the console that you put your sunglasses in, so they can just tap that and go straight to the drink, while they don't have to pull over at all.
Speaker 2:As you do, yeah. So what are you guys smoking this week?
Speaker 1:I've got a watermelon OG Ooh, nice. So, uh, what do you? What are you guys smoking this week? I've got a watermelon og oh nice very citrusy. It tastes very fruity, too, pretty solid that's good yeah, I like watermelon. Uh, I have uh greasy runts, which I think is applicable because of all the kids in the basement them greasy little runs. Yeah, by the time the movie ends there's some greasy runs. Okay, all right, You're trying really hard to find applicable strains.
Speaker 2:It's costing him so much money.
Speaker 1:These are all strains that I've just had, that I like I stocked up. I'd get like an eighth of a bunch of different strains and I'm trying my hardest to make them fit and you just I think greasy rots works perfect.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you yeah, you pulled it up. You pulled it up. Thank you all. Right. Well, I'll be joining you guys with something I found for $16. Yeah, it's called Rebel. It's 50 horsepower, 100 proof, kentucky straight bourbon whiskey.
Speaker 1:Liquor is known to be the better. The cheaper it is, the better it is. That's like a known fact about liquor.
Speaker 2:Is that true? We're going to find out. No, it has an arbitrary 1849 printed on it.
Speaker 1:Okay, it doesn't say that it was established 1849, it's just like just original recipe since 1849 okay yeah, this is the first I'm hearing of it, so this is rebel. They rebel against health code, the health uh the official whiskey of rebel moon.
Speaker 2:Oh God, excellent Son of a bitch.
Speaker 1:It's the official. It's official whiskey of the civil war. The South.
Speaker 2:South civil war. Uh, all right, Well, so load them up Um. I just realized hold on.
Speaker 1:You don't have a glass?
Speaker 2:No, we're going straight out the bottle. On this one, it's right behind me. Wait, let me make sure. Just take your headphones off. I got to see where I'm running towards here. Oh, there we go.
Speaker 1:I like that game plan. Before the task I have to look over my shoulder.
Speaker 2:Alright, okay, we're good to go. Yeah, I have a glass now. Alright, you always gotta keep a high-end shot glass nearby.
Speaker 1:The first Jesus.
Speaker 2:First one goes out to our movie here Weapons, weapons, cheers, oh God.
Speaker 1:Oh God, what the fuck is that? It's the taste of Confederacy. What the shit.
Speaker 2:What in the hell it?
Speaker 1:tastes just like it's movie.
Speaker 2:It's shit oh my god. Handcrafted according to the original time-honored weeded recipe since 1849 and bottled at 100 proof for rich, full flavor do you believe like? Yeah, do you? I guess I'll pull up with our second one here. This one goes out to, in my opinion, the most powerful weapon in weapons Josh Brolin's boot. Yeah, pretty good boot. I enjoyed that particularly, so here's to that. Cheers, cheers. Oh my God, this is so bad.
Speaker 1:It just tastes bad holy crap, it tastes like a gray coats, sweaty nutsack oh boy, howdy num nums and this final toast, final shot, final hit.
Speaker 2:This one goes out to our newest listeners. There is no way I'm going to pronounce this. One goes out to our newest listeners. There is no way I'm going to pronounce this one correctly, let's go.
Speaker 1:I'm ready to.
Speaker 2:Degeling, schleswig-holstein, d-a-g-e-l-i-e.
Speaker 1:Schlegel-Holstein is the northernmost of 16 states of Germany, compromising most of the historical duchy of Holstein in the southern part of former something. How are they getting their hands on this?
Speaker 2:shit I don't understand. Well, here's the dangling.
Speaker 1:Well, we said we were anti-fascist, and so the only people who remember what fascism is germany, because we all made them and then we all forgot so now there's just this bastion of anti-fascism Fucking Germany. They're like you guys, what the fuck? You told us we couldn't do it. Now you do it.
Speaker 2:Well, here's to them, here's to the anti-fascism Cheers.
Speaker 1:Ding-a-ling Cheers.
Speaker 2:Actually, when you look it up, ding-a-ling is the bastion of fascism within the last bastion of anti-fascism. It's a county law that you have to wear great grandpa's uh uniform full law.
Speaker 1:You know, I'm sure I'm sure a lot of people are their grandpas are dying around this time and they're finding old nazi shit. It's happening in the us that people are dying around this time and they're finding nazi shit in people's gear and you're just like, oh damn, grandpa, you really fucking. You were that guy, weren't you?
Speaker 2:part of the american bund jesus christ, you're really in it I just thought you were of the time races not not full into it jesus christ, oh, grandpa, grandpa but anyway so it's now time to start this last Bastion podcast of movie reviews that aren't shit like our friends over at Fandango.
Speaker 1:Let's rate this fucking movie.
Speaker 2:So what do we feel about this movie? Who wants to kick this thing off?
Speaker 1:I don't care.
Speaker 1:I can kick it off. I'm probably the least we usually throw to you first. Luke, you like that, would you prefer I, I don't mind. This is probably one of my least watched genres, so I usually like to hear what you guys have to say, but sure I can go first then. Yeah, let's hear it. Yeah, okay, so for those people, something we haven't done in the past is give a quick summary of the movie. I think we should do that. That might help, I think. So let's give. Let's give a quick summary.
Speaker 1:So in the movie it's, it's a story about a small town where a bunch of kids go missing all at the same time and they all just seem to like run out the front, their front door of their own will at the same time. Obviously we're immediately thought like this is some kind of mesmerism, or you know they're, they didn't just plan this. But nobody knows, nobody knows, uh, and they start to blame. There's like an obvious suspect which is the teacher. The teacher, because it was all kids from her class and only one kid stayed behind named alex. Who's luke, who luke named himself after this week in our chat.
Speaker 1:I, I was gonna do james, but I thought it'd be too confusing to james today, but that would have been great. I would have loved that, because james is my standout character. Yeah, james was excellent. Uh, the rest of the movie doesn't matter. All you have to know is that there's this drug addict named james and he is fucking awesome and he got done dirty. He got done dirty, he just wanted to do more meth, that was all he was looking to do.
Speaker 2:All he wanted was drugs so, uh.
Speaker 1:So throughout the movie you see the conflict between these characters. Everyone thinks the the teacher did it and so the town's kind of turned against her and everyone seems kind of like threatening. Everyone's like like where's my kid? The police don't have any answers and the movie progresses like that and we get to a scene where the way the movie is presented is in pastiche, is following characters, so it's split up into character stories and you see parts and they jump back in story After we get to a point with the teacher. Uh, we jump back to, uh, uh, brolin's character and it's like in the past around the time and it always starts with the kids disappearing and like what was this person's story from the time? The kids disappeared, except for alex at the end. But that's how the movie's presented is these intertwining stories where you get more information every time you see someone's story and they overlap all the way to the end where we see Alex, the one kid left in the class who didn't disappear and he's seen everything happen the whole time.
Speaker 1:It turns out there is a witch. It's kind of telegraphed early in the movie when they write witch on her car. We never actually learn who did that and I have a little suspect that it was the witch who know it's kind of telegraphed early in the movie when they write witch on her car. We never actually learned who did that and my, I have a little suspect that it was the witch who did it to kind of be like, you know, make it like silly that people calling her I think it was a hundred percent roslyn's character because he had the red paint in the oh yeah, that makes sense the bed of his truck.
Speaker 1:That was my thought. That's what made me think it was him. That's a great point. The witch seems to be really smart about, uh, deflecting attention from herself and stuff. But anyway, this witch showed up to alex's house like a long lost relative and ends up enchanting his family in a really gruesome way and then threatening him because she wants to keep suspicion off of her is what I assume. It never goes over and for some reason she leaves alex unenchanted and so she's like don't tell anybody about me. And so, from his house, this witch has been taking over the town. She cast a spell on adults. She cast she, she took all the kids. She asked alex to do her dirty work, to go get, uh, to get pieces, personal items of the children so she could enchant them. And so the whole impetus is this witch took over a town. It takes a long time to get there, you know, you're.
Speaker 1:One thing I liked about this movie is that there were a lot of questions in the beginning. They, they telegraph witch by by having it painted on the car, and I had that immediate thought like definitely she might be a witch, was my first like oh, okay, that'd be cool if they were misleading us, it'd be cool if she's a witch or there might be another witch. But I also had thoughts of like aliens, you know could be. I thought, you know, when we saw aliens actually were a big thought of mine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, started getting into the movie yeah, yeah, aliens, or hypnosis. I thought about you know, or uh. There were just a lot of things going on in my head Like what could it be? Did anybody did anybody like think which seriously like? Like throughout the whole story, or was it kind of still a?
Speaker 2:surprise to you. It was still kind of a surprise to me that that so she was a witch. I'm a fan of zach krieger, not because of barbarian. I thought that that was a fumble, but really I liked it. Whitest kids, you know, oh sure, yeah, yeah. So I had assumed it was going to be like abraham lincoln being a dick in a theater or someone with a gallon of PCP, anything around that. I thought it was just going to be a whole callback, a business sniper from across the street, a business sniper.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the fact that the whole thing wasn't an homage to the late Trevor Noah I felt was just inappropriate, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure when you tell him he's not honoring his dead friend, enough he'll. He'll take you seriously.
Speaker 2:Let's be real, all right.
Speaker 1:One person in that group had the talent, and it wasn't Zach Rieger but, uh, like this movie, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:No, I did. Oh, you mean like acting talent.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Hmm, no, I mean, if Trevor Noah directed this, it would be a totally different film and I'd be excited to see what he came up with.
Speaker 1:It would definitely be drugs. He liked aliens too.
Speaker 2:I mean, he was out there, well, but I wasn't sure and I purposely went into this one trying not to. I definitely was not expecting the different story arcs thing. I was not expecting to follow it that way. That kind of came out of nowhere. Did you like it? Oh, I guess we could get to that. Yeah, yeah, and Justin Long showing up definitely brings the rating down for me. Did you say it brought it down? Why? Yeah, because, as a society, we collectively said no thank you, justin Long. No, thank you.
Speaker 1:I like Justin Long.
Speaker 2:He's trying to sneak through. I'm not a member of your society as a society we collectively put our hand on his chest and said no, I'm a huge fan of Accepted.
Speaker 1:I haven't seen Accepted in a long time.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's a stupid movie.
Speaker 1:Oh my god. So it doesn't Got it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but nostalgia. And then there's also Walrus, of course I haven't seen Walrus. Was it good? It was just body horror.
Speaker 1:Oh well, that doesn't really do it for me. Yeah, I, I mean, if you want to see justin long as a walrus then yeah, kind of I guess I could just look up a clip of the. I don't have to watch the whole movie wouldn't recommend it.
Speaker 2:It was like uh, what was it? It was kevin smith, right yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, he said like what if we did like a fucking human centipede?
Speaker 1:but we turned justin long into a walrus justin walrus, sexy and just a walrus, sexy, I'm not getting anything, but oh dope, yeah, leave the sexy out. That's a pretty, that's pretty crazy yeah it's intense oh my god yeah, literally turn jesus christ.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was the movie okay yeah, I didn't. I think that's when we collectively said, okay, no more bad, you're not taking this seriously more and and yeah, yeah, yeah. So yeah, we're very opinionated. But so, james, yeah, how did you feel about the film?
Speaker 1:Okay. So I thought that the acting was very good. I don't Nobody's acting pulled me out of it. You know, I I thought that the witch wasn't a very good actress at first, but she's just uh not good at being human. You know, that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Is it kind of rolled up where I was like, okay, she's just really bad at appearing to be human when she doesn't have strict control. She doesn't know how to use charisma. I think she says something about charisma also, but she doesn't have the charisma to to interact with humans. As a human, she's just used to just getting her way with force, the force of her magic, uh. So they did a really good job of her just not actually being good being a person, and I thought I thought the child acting was good. I thought alex was good at it. I thought his facial expressions like they managed to elicit facial expressions from him during the scenes when he was like when he knew he was doing something wrong to his fellow schoolmates, but just knowing he had to do it to survive and to protect his parents he really gave that to me too.
Speaker 1:I was like wow, I'm feeling his emotion in this thing, as a child.
Speaker 2:That's pretty well. Zach krieger would strike him right before calling action um, and I think that really worked yeah, I think he got.
Speaker 1:He managed to get an excellent performance out of the kid. He elicited, like you know, guilt and fear and but determination. I saw all those things in a kid actor and that's crazy. Um, yeah, I'm gonna give this acting 4.5. I thought it was real good, impressive and, thinking about it more and more, I think everybody played there. Everybody got their script you know they got. They were all on the same page.
Speaker 1:They got even this even terry, who was uh, was uh benedict walling's husband. Yeah, yeah, he even was like such a small character but was like impactful in his role, like which which I thought was it was I loved him just trying to hold shit together while in the middle, while simultaneously being in a super healthy, supportive relationship, and I also like that he was too kind in the end, and that's what fucked them over like benedict.
Speaker 1:Wong was like no boundaries, you're not allowed in my home. And he's like no, no, no, you guys, you come on yeah dude, I love, I love the little hot dog tray.
Speaker 2:I was like, looking at that, I'm like, oh, I love that yeah, I love that for him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they were just sitting down to spend spend a night in together. You could tell they were in a really loving relationship and that's, and I thought the acting was all really good yeah, there's no one. No one was no one. Seemed like they didn't want to be there or weren't trying their hardest to be there, you know do you recall where we first encountered?
Speaker 2:well, at least where I first encountered. It might be similar to you.
Speaker 1:It crowd where we yeah, yeah and nick long was offering the teapot in.
Speaker 2:Yes, a random episode of I grabbed some ha, ha, he has spirit this one, some unfamiliar british fucking comedy show. That was where I first encountered him and I I like that he's popping up.
Speaker 1:I like him a lot when I saw him dr strange, I was like fuck yeah. And then he just got. He just blew up after that and uh he's a great actor, love.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, 4.5. On the acting cinematography I thought this was really well shot. I thought they communicated a lot of things with the camera, like where characters were looking and you know what. What. What we were supposed to pay attention to almost like murder mystery would, like they understood it was mystery. Cam literally said the whole first half was just like a, like a small town murder mystery movie. That's what she said, like to a t. That's so funny. You said that, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, that's the thing is, they conveyed it so well using the camera that it's so perceptible to us well, I remember one shot she looks at the blinds and like she looks, and it's like panning and it's creating tension because you don't, you can't see what's coming into the next shot, but you know she's gonna look up and down the street and like it was creating tension with the camera. Uh, yeah, nothing and nothing would happen in those scenes, but I still just felt uneasy. Yeah, and it was like the camera conveyed the witch hunt. Right, there was a witch hunt going on. At first you're like, clearly this woman is innocent, right, and he literally painted witch on her car and she's got to look over her shoulder all the time. And then you realize, oh, everybody needs to start looking over their shoulder as you follow different characters and you're like, oh shit, james is not looking over his shoulder at all. Holy shit, james is being like he's. He's being like a really drug addict. He's like willing to overlook anything and everything.
Speaker 2:Like when he was sitting there in the fucking living room.
Speaker 1:When those people were sitting there in the living room I was like, oh my god, what's gonna happen?
Speaker 2:And he just fucking kept stealing.
Speaker 1:That's wild. He turned his back on them. As soon as he turned his back on him, like that, my theater burst out laughing. And someone who's a tweaker though I bet you like, that's not that, he's like yeah, they're probably just fucking tripping balls, whatever.
Speaker 1:I need to keep going. They don't know I'm here cool like you know what I mean, yeah, and the clearly coerced movements of everybody, like in the way they framed it, like with them in the background and blurry and stuff. It really. It really gave us this sense of unease and my audience I don't know how active your audiences were, but mine was very active and you'd hear them oh, you know and and and the. The cinematography was really good about that. I'm going to give this a 4.5 also. I also really love this. I really love the scene where the child was chasing her through the house and we followed the kid whatever kid actor was doing. That stunt choreography was so fucking good. Like what good stunt choreography from a child? Yeah, fucking wild. Also, the gas station shot when he was chasing.
Speaker 2:I found very it was like like you're in a chase.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I really enjoyed that and I found out later that uh cam told me that it was they shot it, the guy cameraman was on rollerblades to come around the corner and to be able to get that.
Speaker 2:That's impressive, yeah, yeah, so I was. I'm gonna give the cinematography five.
Speaker 1:I like that he did it on fucking, he did his sonic drive-in style that's fucking awesome. The cinematography was really good on this. It really was, i't know. He had a tray of fries in his hand while he did it. Yeah, impressive, yeah, even just there was a shot like I know we can talk about, but there was a shot when she was coming out of the gas station. I saw the truck in the background and it was like very clear that they wanted you to see it.
Speaker 1:I'm like there's a truck it like immediately started connecting. It's very early on and I was like that was on purpose. They meant to do that. Yeah, that was something they did. Well, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cinematography, I thought was really good too.
Speaker 1:They wanted you to know stuff. I think I'm going to see this movie again, cause there's stuff they wanted you to know.
Speaker 2:And I'm pretty sure she's opening the refrigerator. There's an advertisement that says this whole thing is perpetrated by a witch who lives at the end of the street, alex.
Speaker 1:But I liked. I also liked the way they did the dreams, like everybody was having bad dreams because the supernatural entity was there. I love that. But score and soundtrack here's the the problem. I don't remember it. I I don't know if I at the time it was good, but I don't remember it. Horror movies in general, I feel like never have a good or bad soundtrack, because it's like a soundtrack, like it's meant to set just a tone of ear, yes, to write in. Almost all of them do that. What about 28 years later?
Speaker 2:That's one time where it was very memorable the exorcist. It's possible. It's possible to do those things.
Speaker 1:I guess Jaws is one where it's very memorable, very memorable.
Speaker 2:The original Jurassic Park. It's definitely possible and yeah with it like they didn't make, yeah, um for sure. So yeah, it's possible, it's possible. They just choose not to and I think that comes down to just, you know, trevor nolan not being on the team.
Speaker 1:He was the musical talent, yeah, uh, cherno's musical talent. So for score and soundtrack I don't think it's tracked anything, but I'm having trouble remembering it. I think I remember there were some things reminiscent of which you know, the like swelling shrill, you know modulating violins. That I felt happened at least once or twice, but I don't know it wasn't enough for to make it memorable. So three, but you know, actually they use silence really well, I don't know if that's part of it using silence well in a movie in a horror movie specifically.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they use like pure silence because a lot of times you'll have like you don't want everything to be completely silent because things are too still. But they did like pure silence to the point where I could hear people shuffling next to me, sometimes uncomfortably, which I thought was very interesting for this movie. But still, three story and plot I thought it was really good. I liked seeing a witch in the spotlight. You know what if a witch took over a small town? That's like a children's movie premise and you do it all goofy.
Speaker 1:You know like it'd be a storybook witch, you know like a disney witch or something like a halloween, halloween town or some shit like that, but they like took it pretty seriously and the first, the first half is presented like very seriously and then when the supernatural starts to enter, then it starts then like it's like the bounds of reality start to shift and the tone of the movie shifts and people's behavior starts to shift and it's less like serious and motivated and more like off the like just just, life is wacky. You know, life is wild and we don't have any control over it, you go. So it goes from really motivated and linear and streamlined to being like what's going to happen next? Drug addict's going to bust in and see literally everything.
Speaker 1:And the only reason he isn't able to go to the authorities to tell him is because he just had to fucking be breaking in the day before he could talk about this stuff. You don't have AIDS, do you? No, it was a good scene. It was. It wasn't, and I also love that. That wasn't really what he needed to be worrying about those characters and all these worries. And then you realize that people should be worried about something else.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And so their worries seem comical james's worries about being arrested or not getting the money, or whatever all of it seems comical.
Speaker 2:Well, I well. I feel like there's something to be said on the golden path for that, in terms of how these characters were concerned with those things and how just we in general miss fucking shit, you know, because we're wrapped up in our own bullshit yeah, great point.
Speaker 1:I would have liked to have seen more more witch plot though. Uh, we got quite a bit, but I would have liked to have seen more witch plot, though. We got quite a bit, but I would have liked to have seen more, actually, more fun and games around being a witch.
Speaker 2:I would like to know where the fuck she came from, where she was going? How old is she to plan?
Speaker 1:her, her mom's aunt or something like that or or someone whoever's aunt, and it's clear she's been in this family for a long time, so she's done this to their family, probably instead of being part of them. She's done, she did the same thing, where she became a parasite on the family and used them like servants, like, like, like a, like a vampire would have a butler family that takes care of them or whatever I mean they even have the dad just opening the door for the kid just come home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like like a creepy butler, oh yeah, yeah, like a slave, like a butler slave, mind slave family yeah um, uh, I thought the story plot was pretty good.
Speaker 1:I'm'm going to give it a four. I would like to see more fun and games, though. Uh, rewatch ability. I'm definitely going to rewatch this. I I this movie left a lot of clues and I I bet that I missed some of them. I probably miss, and I want to go back and look, and that's. That's a great thing for a movie to do is be like, wow, I like this movie. I want to go back and do it again and see what else I can get, because it was well written.
Speaker 2:I'm going to give rewatchability a four.
Speaker 1:That's a solid spread that is a solid spread. Yeah, I really like this movie.
Speaker 2:Fucking hell. All right, luke, do you want to go next? You want me to take the heels All right.
Speaker 1:So yeah, as somebody that was kind of scared to go see this movie not going to lie, yeah, it looked fucking scary during the previews.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was definitely nervous for this one, but overall I really enjoyed it. I thought that it was a really good movie. I am just one of my biggest things.
Speaker 2:I don't like jump scares that much. I'm not a fan of that feeling. Yeah, and I don't have some good ones.
Speaker 1:This one had some good ones, but I don't feel like it was the whole premise of the movie, while it did have those moments and it was because it was building tension. Well, that's when a jumpscare works best, right, when tension is built up. But yeah, with that being said, I was going in with kind of like a I don't even really want to see this and I came out like, oh, that was actually a good movie, like it was just a good movie that I enjoyed. So the acting you were spot on and I felt the exact same way, even. The only other thing I want to note is when that woman hits Wong with her car. Her screaming and just distress felt so, so authentic. I don't know like it really was so good and that's just such a again small part where I'm like, wow, every single character brought it to the table, um on it. So I gave it a 4.5 as well. Yeah, nice, the cinematography I I actually have as a 4.5, but I I agree, after talking, just like the way, the innovativeness, the shots, the way they told the story with the camera, I think it really does deserve a 5. That was a huge like it was a standout for me already and I think give it what it deserves. So I gave that a 5 as well.
Speaker 1:Wow, score and soundtrack. I also kind of agreed. It didn't pull me out. The only thing is I thought was an interesting choice was the shot when all the kids were running. They played like some sort. I can't even remember what the song was, but it was just like this. It didn't almost fit the tone and it was very interesting to me like that choice. But I ended up giving the score soundtrack a 3.5. Yeah, I don't remember what that song was, but I agree with you. Yeah, it's like we were fucking enchanted and yeah, yeah, and I was just like.
Speaker 1:I was like I don't know why and I feel like it was like this, like it was a tool to make, like let our guard down for a moment and like I feel like it I.
Speaker 1:It got very serious right after that, so that is a little interesting. So I gave it a 3.5. The uh story I thought it was really good. I like the detective part, um, in the beginning of the movie. I feel like they let every character have a little bit of depth and understanding each little part of the story. I really enjoyed um and I thought that I liked the end being alex and just like it piecing all puzzles together. I. I think it is difficult to do the multiple storyline where it comes to a focal point and a lot of ones where it'll be one point that they all come to, and this one kind of kind of did that, but it was like each of them came to like different parts of each other's stuff and I liked it I loved it.
Speaker 1:I thought it was so fun to watch. So, um, I gave the story a 4.5 and then I hated. This does go down for me and I know that it's not fair. I'm just not a scare, I'm not gonna. I might watch this again, so it gets a higher rating than normal, but I don't know if I will.
Speaker 1:It was, it was scary, it was like it was. It was a freaky movie, normal, but I don't know if I will. It was scary, it was a freaky movie. But I will say out of a theater at home I think it would be less impactful with the sounds and stuff. So maybe I went. I gave it a 2.5 for rewatchability. I think that's a really important message out there for everyone to remember is that even though a movie can be not a genre you like, necessarily, it's easy to recognize when a movie is good. It's easy to recognize when they do it right and it can still be enjoyable. I'm telling you, I'm the person who just doesn't like to be scared like that and I really enjoyed the movies too, and I love a horror movie that does that.
Speaker 1:Silence of the Lambs was probably one of the earliest movies that I saw where I was like like, I was like no, this is just a good movie, and like it was considered to me and it didn't really scare me and I yeah, anytime I uh am going to a new movie. I'm like you, like silence of the lambs, you're probably gonna be fine with this one, it's okay that's the thing, good movies, man.
Speaker 1:It is write things well and you set things up and pay them off like just even just the whole side stories like she's cheating on, like she ended up breaking his sobriety and he cheated on this girl. Like he made it seem like they were off and on again, like that was so side. But it also had depth to it because of the multiple points of view it like allowed.
Speaker 1:Like you want to know more yes yeah, really good, really good storytelling, really really good storytelling yeah well, for me, I uh, I'm, I'm, yeah, well, I think.
Speaker 2:Really, what sets us apart from fandango, you know just, is the understanding that a good film is good film, regardless of genre. And we don't, you know, kowtow to our corporate overlords and whatnot. We're not just a scalper of movie tickets. So you know, we understand a little better, but do buy your movie tickets through us.
Speaker 1:I try movie tickets hmm, there's an idea so anyway, yeah.
Speaker 2:So for me. So acting on this, yeah, solid across the board. You know everyone had an assignment and they fucking understood it. That's right, I'm glad they beat the shit out of that kid to get those realistic emotions, like he's leaving this scenario with ptsd and you know they really made sure that he left his filming with ptsd so good for them yeah he can.
Speaker 1:The next round is the remake of stranger things.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, no, they got a place for him well then, uh, I mean, yeah, drash brolin show up, and so apparently drash brolin had taken the role when Pedro Pascal turned it down because of timing issues with Fantastic Four.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow OK.
Speaker 2:I think Brolin was a way better choice.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, For sure. Yeah, Like oh no, I think Josh Brolin fit that character so well. I'm really happy with that choice.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you put Pedro Pascal in, that it goes down for me, I think, and I like Pedro Pascal, I do too, but he's also becoming.
Speaker 2:He no longer is the character he's now.
Speaker 1:Pedro Pascal knows math and is stretchy, or Pedro Pascal wields a spear and is bisexual, or Pedro Pascal is yeah, he's not Pedro Pascal, who gets angry and frustrated and releases that anger on yeah, yeah, anyone who he feels might be the target yeah, and Josh Brolin in his older age.
Speaker 2:He's like, uh, uh, a Tommy Lee Jones type, you know, oh yeah, he's, yeah for sure, like fake tractor man, which worked really well for angry father in the midwest whose child was taken by a witch. Yeah and no and so, but just across the board I thought the acting was great. Even the witch, um brought it.
Speaker 1:She sure did, yeah, and so let's see, uh, amy, like talking to people, like he said, like, just like she was unsettling every time and I felt like that was also like her, like not being able to almost be human, like was unsettling and she did it did it well the only commentary I'd have in any terms.
Speaker 2:That was she obviously surviving by being able to manipulate and understanding suspicion. She always knew like, oh fuck, tomorrow we're going to be talking to the fbi, guarantee it, just watch this. But then she thinks that that wig and that makeup setup is gonna, you know, push suspicion off.
Speaker 1:Well, remember I don't know you remember why she was, why they were supposed to take her in? It's because there was no one left to take care of her, because she had totally drained a whole family over who knows how long.
Speaker 2:So she's been like isolated with servants for who knows how long it's kind of like like a vampire waking up this may just came down to a natural progression of, like this is what your evil ways get you. I mean, it's just gonna happen. Well, but uh, acting. Yeah, there's no one in there, I feel, who didn't bring it and hey, hats off to uh fucking the cop alan alden.
Speaker 1:Iron reich, yeah, aaron reich, oh yeah like he made me hate him.
Speaker 2:I will hate him in any movie he does, moving forward, and I so I'm. I hope that weapons was the hill he wanted to die on um, you do know an actor delivered a good hateful character.
Speaker 2:When you hate, like personally you're like I hate you personally I, I love that theater, just like fucking chanting a cab and so yeah, fuck him so acting, I'm gonna give it 4.5. Then there was the. The reason why I give it a 4.5. The reason why I give it a 4.5 and not a 5 is just because there was no standout moment. There wasn't a scene that was given to the actors where like hey, you pull this off, you're going to get an Oscar.
Speaker 1:That scene just didn't exist in the film. Oscars don't go to horror movies usually.
Speaker 2:That's right. So well, I mean Anthony Hopkins.
Speaker 1:Did he win an oscar for that role? Okay, I believe you.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying yes, uh, I'm not gonna get up. I think that sounds right, I'm pretty sure sounds right, sounds right, yeah, sounds right so I'm going with it. If our president can do it, then I can fucking do it. Um, his don't even sound right. So, um, and then I'm gonna go to cinematography. Yeah, sounds right, if you say with enough confidence. Anthony hopkins won an oscar for his portrayal of hannibal lecter in red dragon oh god, cinematography.
Speaker 2:Uh, I'm right there with you guys. It was an expert use of the camera to tell a story and portray a message and to convey a feeling which a lot of times just doesn't fucking happen. Zach krieger, he's trying something here. He's trying good. For him was trevor noah there.
Speaker 1:Maybe you've been better if trevor noah played james, oh my god.
Speaker 2:That's like the role was written for Trevor Noah. Amazing. So I'm going to go 4.5 as well. The score yeah, they could have done a witch thing here. They could have done an exorcism, you know fucking come up with something.
Speaker 1:They did a really good job.
Speaker 2:Oh, you mean for the soundtrack, yeah, yeah, so, but at the same time, they knew when to bring out the, the discordant, fucking violin plug. Yeah, they did. They knew when to bring it. So for that I give it a three story. And uh, this was refreshing. It reminded us that that women are the true evil.
Speaker 1:Oh no, oh no, America's going to learn the wrong lesson.
Speaker 2:And if you guys listen to our podcast, you know that we're big proponents of that. Media just needs to be outlawed because we as a society are not responsible enough to consume it society are not responsible enough to consume it.
Speaker 1:Um and yeah, but I specifically agree with pete hegseth, our secretary of defense, who feels that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. I specifically agree with that and that's the biggest part of it and that's what this film was trying to say.
Speaker 2:You know that witch was able to take out a credit card. You know, for example, and yeah, those, those are things we need to look at as a society. Yeah, jesus christ that she was divorced too, and so because there's so many fucking morons consuming media out there and I don't want our show to be one, we don't actually feel that way and if you do, if you're sitting there going like high and dry said it's cool, I heard a fucking mouthpiece say that my opinion is okay, you're a piece of shit.
Speaker 1:So sorry, yeah, sorry, yeah at least you know, germany will be okay yeah, that's true, joe rogan's such an asshole.
Speaker 2:So uh, story and plot, I'm gonna give it a. I'm gonna give it a four. I'm gonna give it a four. There was times for me where it meandered just a little bit there was some fat that could have been trimmed. Sure, yeah, uh, rewatch ability there. I would have liked to have seen the witch have sex. Sure, full penetration obviously.
Speaker 1:I think it's time for our society just to be okay with that, and old hags do have sex.
Speaker 2:According to statistics, it's like all they do.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, old people have a lot of sex Get used to it.
Speaker 2:But yeah, rewatchability. When this thing comes out, when it hits freaking Amazon and streaming, I'm going to watch it again. I'm going to watch it again. I'm going to suggest to other people.
Speaker 1:I think I'm going to go see it at the theater again. For real I think I'm going to go to the theater again. Yeah, I'm part of the subscriber thing, so it doesn't cost me anything. It's really good. I want to make sure I see it again, while it's still the best it can be, you know yeah, okay, and that gives it an official high and dry rating of a four out of five very solid I honestly thought it would get higher.
Speaker 2:I was I thought it would get 4.5. Yeah, I did too, but it's almost flat 4 out of 5. That's very strong, I think the score, dropped it right.
Speaker 1:Everybody said the score, I mean that's where it dipped my rewatchability was probably the only other one.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Solid film, but I agree this is one that I'll go to and suggest to somebody else. If someone asked me what I thought of it, I'd definitely be like you need to go watch it. It was definitely something.
Speaker 2:I think the rewatchability and like suggestability are kind of like hand in hand for our rating on that side of it, I kind of like that. If you're not a horror guy like Luke, you might not watch it again, but the fact that you'd suggest it, you know could potentially pump your rewatch ability. And yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's, there are outliers yeah, and it's these subtleties that set us apart from, uh you know, folks over at fandango you know who can't tell a film between an ass and you know their own fucking ass.
Speaker 2:So it's like, yeah, they have no idea what's going on over there.
Speaker 1:This one's's 95% in Rotten Tomatoes right now Great it deserves it.
Speaker 2:Well deserved, well deserved, yeah, everybody thinks it's a good movie.
Speaker 1:How good? Whatever, doesn't matter.
Speaker 2:It's a good movie and I would just also like to remind the folks at home. We talk about Fandango a lot. Let's not forget that Rotten Tomatoes scores are arbitrary. They mean nothing.
Speaker 1:I they mean nothing. So I mean check them before you go. They're pretty good at identifying a stinker.
Speaker 2:Pretty good, but but after that it's just like a fucking crap shoot. It means nothing. Their scores mean nothing.
Speaker 1:And it's got 12%. Probably a bad movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but they're. 98 means nothing next to an 82. It nothing, right, so Right. So fuck them. So, with that being said, fuck Rotten Tomatoes, and let's move on to the second portion of this thing.
Speaker 2:We're 50 minutes in it's time for our final toast, final shot, final hit. This one goes to a solid horror film which the genre desperately needs. I don't think they come up with a bunch of action figures for this one so that makes hollywood don't really give a shit. But uh, alex action figure with real running away from things action he flip a switch in his back and he just runs down in a grocery store with papers of every child from the class.
Speaker 1:It's just got like a bundle of tiny papers. No, it's that backpack.
Speaker 2:Scattered across the living room. That's just a big blue backpack with the papers inside. Yeah, Hell yeah, all right, here's, let's get on the golden path.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about this thing. Cheers boys. Oh, I did do another, I'll do another one. We have a lot to say about this movie. Sorry for taking up so much time going first.
Speaker 2:So I think, the big takeaways from this one golden path. Let's dive on in. Let's jump on the back of shia lude and I think shia lude's screaming a cab.
Speaker 1:All cops are fucking bastards well, yeah, that's a surface level.
Speaker 2:One is that this cop is a real piece of shit no, but I think that it went further in just watching his day-to-day and then showing the way the chief was like, look, if it goes away in a month, it goes away in a month, if it doesn't, yeah, and just the fact that you know each other. What else was that chief gonna do? Right? If it was the three of us being cops, I'd do the same fucking thing I would turn you guys in you shouldn't be doing that well, and then me and luke would do the only thing we would shoot you in the back of a patrol car, that's true, you would.
Speaker 1:That's why I wouldn't want to be a cop, and so a-cap fucking a-cap.
Speaker 2:You know we're bastards, you made us bastards uh, no, no, you were bastards before see. But then we rolled back the fucking test footage and we saw you utilizing your power to, like you know, get free gas or something. Some bullshit, you know you were victimizing a crackhead, you know. So it's just.
Speaker 1:And yeah, it's just it's just part of the job.
Speaker 2:I don't know what to say Exactly so. Yeah, there was definitely an ACAB element, but then that was real piece of shit.
Speaker 1:He was a huge scumbag, oh my jesus christ.
Speaker 2:He was scum. The only dude who wasn't fucking scum was goddamn um uh, james no andrew benedict wong yeah, benedict wong and his husband or partner.
Speaker 1:Well, no, because his partner didn't understand healthy boundaries yeah, benedict Wong did put off the check, the wellness check, but he didn't really stand a chance in the end.
Speaker 2:Anyway, he did try to put it off.
Speaker 1:He did try to get rid of this problem of a wellness check. To be fair, he was kind of a piece of shit also. Yeah, no one really everybody's complicated.
Speaker 2:They're nuanced, so funny that's what's awesome about it. Yeah, everyone's nuanced. I'm sorry, luke, you had a I was about to say that.
Speaker 1:That brings a point that I feel like I saw throughout the movie, which each of them had like an addiction, and I feel like benedict wong's actually was like a food addiction, and I think that josh brawlins was work because he said he was never there for his child, and I think that justine has an alcohol problem, as well as the police. Each individual person's story has some sort of addiction and I think one of the stories is kind of like overlooked things, um, and that's things like addiction and how they're overlooked in everyday society and all of these characters having issues. Obviously, james is an obvious one. He's a fucking actual. Wait, what's wrong with james? Listen, yeah, if doing drugs every day makes you problematic, then I don't know what to say. But yeah, I felt like it was very interesting because I feel like each of the characters were problematic and each of their characters had some sort of almost gluttony. Am I using that correctly? Indulgence? Indulgence is what I'm trying to go for. Everyone had a sin.
Speaker 2:Yeah, indulgence, indulgences, but yeah, indulgence is uh what I'm trying to go for, but everyone had a sin, yeah, well, but I also appreciate, like. So I'm just taking um julia garner's character. She's going through so much, she obviously cares about her students, but then at the end of the and she's put on a witch hunt by the whole fucking town, but then tonight she just wants a drink and wants to get fucking laid, like don't we all man? Yeah, and they don't ignore that, they don't walk away from that, like yeah, she was not a bad person in that situation.
Speaker 1:Like like he, she was lied to. Yeah, she did not know that she was breaking his sobriety. Like she didn't also know that she, like he, was actually serious and she, she asked, she straight up asked are you guys, you, you with her are you with her?
Speaker 2:and he's like he said no, he said no, but he was, he was. He was worse than the fucking witch, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:He well, no, I don't think that. But he he should have. You know, the things that would have made this different was he would have said he could have said he could have been honest about his relationship, says, and told her that he was being, that he was sober. But these people are so flawed everyone's flawed with their, and they're all nuanced. For that reason, we get to see their flaws on display and they make us ask more. They make us want to know more about their flaws, about them as people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah well, but look, and just just to prove my point again, um, the witch had all this power and she did not join the police department, so I would still argue that he was a bigger piece of shit do you and do you another like.
Speaker 1:So I had to look this one up after the movie. But do you guys? Is there a scene in the movie I don't know if either of you guys remember that really was like stand out but weird and almost didn't, was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:well, tell me the ak-47 in the sky ak-47 in the sky, oh yes so it's a symbolic dreams, right?
Speaker 1:yeah so, but that has a deeper like. Apparently, you know it's a theorized symbology.
Speaker 2:There's a symbology senate vote recently.
Speaker 1:That was actually a weapons ban in the united states and it got 217 votes, which is just shy of the amount of votes that it needed. It was like 220 votes needed, um, but for some I don't know why they would do that. But like that was like the theorized, because I I looked up like what the fuck was, I still didn't know. At the end of the movie I was like you're saying that it says 217 on the ak yeah, so that like oh, it's because that's when the kids left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know that's when the kids again, the whole 217 is supposed to be that symbol again, this is what. This is what the internet I think the internet's- full of shit?
Speaker 1:yeah, I think the internet's full of shit, but what do you think it is? I couldn't, I, I couldn't make any sense of that stupid I think, it was an arbitrary number, just I think 217 in the morning was arbitrary and then they put the 217.
Speaker 2:It's 217.
Speaker 1:That's when the kids left. He's just seeing symbolism from what he's thinking about.
Speaker 2:Why am I?
Speaker 1:k47 because he Because he should go kill them Like he just he should go. It's, you should go kill.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought I would say to a point of Luke's point. You know, james, you and I have said before that everything that you put into a film should have a reasoning. I guess that's true. If it doesn't, you either are, you know, kind of dumb or you're bad at your job and you get the pick. Oh yeah, guess that's true. If it doesn't, you either are, you know, kind of dumb or you're bad at your job and you get the pick.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:And so so, and we do think as well yeah, and so there has to be a reason that we don't. Maybe, James, when you do your rewatch in, you know, fucking IMAX.
Speaker 1:I bet, I bet, I bet. 217 is the length of some track of music that is influential to no, I'm just throwing out shit, because this is what numerologists do they look for meaning in numbers. And you don't have to be right, it's literally I I agree because I felt like it was randomized.
Speaker 1:I felt like she was just doing that spell thing and it just landed at 217, like I. It felt like that even during the movie because, if you remember, it showed the clock but it didn't feel like they were like oh, it just felt like they were like I had to do it, so I just put in.
Speaker 2:217 bible um quotes the prophet joel and speaks about god pouring out his spirit on all people in the last days. It mentions that sons and daughters will prophecy, young men will see visions and old men will dream dreams oh okay, so never mind.
Speaker 1:So I guess it is. Uh, it's the bible. That seems pretty, seems pretty reasonable, seems. I mean, that seems probably like the best explanation because that has a meaning, right? Yeah but, you're saying why was there a big gun on in the sky? Like weapon, of weapon of god, you know. Just it still doesn't fit maybe he was uh like a combat vet we need to uh, we need to re-watch the movie and figure it out.
Speaker 1:Damn re-watch ability goes up to a five, damn it definitely. That was at least got us talking, because I was at least. I was just like, and I guarantee I'm gonna say there's I, I will talk about this with someone this week who's seen it and they're gonna say what the fuck is up with ak-47. Yeah, I know they're gonna ask about it like I. It was so seen it like. I was like interesting what?
Speaker 2:for me, it didn't clock, that's really funny for me.
Speaker 1:I was just like oh, it's a dream, it's like dream logic. Oh, okay, yeah. And cam said that we got in the car and cam first went what the fuck was that? And she goes maybe just dream logic, like and I was like, yeah, I guess it could be.
Speaker 2:Callie and I both were like what the fuck is with the ak-47 really you guys were.
Speaker 1:I didn't even totally slipped my mind and just said it now I had put it into just dream life.
Speaker 2:That was the. I would be more swayed by that view If there was more dream logic, like you know, if there was a fucking dude in a rabbit costume getting a blow job by you know fucking frog man, like if there was more dream logic inside of it. But that was the only thing was very directed. Everything else was super yeah, so I don't know and it didn't pay off.
Speaker 1:He didn't take a gun and go do justice, nothing. And then I thought the cop was gonna have the ar shotgun. I'm like damn it.
Speaker 1:I thought they were gonna tie it all together and they didn't yeah, maybe we missed a dog tag or something hanging on a nightstand dresser or you know, I think some people with knowledge of the bible will have some kind of reference for a celestial weapon of god, because that's what it seemed like to me was like a big, shiny weapon in the sky is like god telling you to go do violence. I do, actually. I just had this thought he did after that dream. He specifically said, like something about weaponizing something, yeah, and it might have just been a clue for him to be like, yeah, being what?
Speaker 1:like he because? Oh, it was because after wong attacked her he was like oh, he was sent to you like a, like heat seeking, like weaponized humans or something, so maybe it was something to do with that. Just to put him onto that like thought trail there was a lot in this movie.
Speaker 1:We've been talking about this movie for a whole hour. This was a good movie. Had left us with a lot of questions that we are interested in answering. Yeah, I, I will agree, it definitely had me. Um, I, I was into it. I had to go to the. I was questioning if I could handle this movie and then I had to pee and I didn't want to go because I didn't want to miss anything.
Speaker 2:I was like I need to hold this.
Speaker 1:Well, fellas, no, no, I got some left for Golden Path.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, all right, I'm sorry, let's just do it.
Speaker 1:You guys brought up your stuff. I have to bring up my golden path. Rip it. Yeah, I did there are. I think this movie starts out with various levels of penetration, like penetration is a theme in this movie you know what you're using right there yeah, I know, you've got the thorn that pokes the witch's finger.
Speaker 1:You've got sex like that's what starts out with sex with the teacher and the cop. You've got needles, the hypodermic needle, you because the cop gets stabbed in a bad way with it. The drug addict gets stabbed in a good way with it. You know a way that they like.
Speaker 1:You know penetration is like a running theme in the movie and the nuances of penetration, and when it comes to like busting through the door, the uh, hold on, someone got stabbed uh, but like sticks her head through the door looking down at her yeah yeah, and it's like all these things being penetrated and like boundaries yeah, yeah, like you're, I'm sorry, I know it's really weird, right like it's a very interesting concept, but it happened over and over in this movie and even when you get yeah and I, there's bad penetration when the guy gets stabbed in the face too, like that was something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like, oh god, oh, like yeah, there's context to penetration. There's different kinds that control you and your behavior, and then it's like the physical manifestation of crossing your boundaries and taking your bodily autonomy away. It's really interesting. I don't know how much is there, but it's very interesting that there's a repeated penetration and getting stuck. Yeah, I never pulled that out when I was watching it well, huh, I don't like.
Speaker 2:See, it's all about consent, baby, I'd be so mad. Say like I might want to go back and watch barbarian at some point at the same time. I don't.
Speaker 2:I, I thought it was I didn't like barbarian yeah I didn't like barbarian, but like I wonder if there's a I'm trying to figure out, if there's like a style here that's starting to develop. Where's that krieger he's obviously like after barbarian. Obviously the studios are starting to trust him and he's starting to get more options here and I I think that he is going to become a force, and this all started obviously with miss march, but uh no, he directed that he was the star.
Speaker 1:Oh well, he was. Wait, he was the star of that one yeah all I remember is trevor, no, trevor, no from it yeah don't we all?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but yeah. No, he was the guy who was in a coma who Trevor Moore hit with a bat to wake him up.
Speaker 1:He did do Companion, which was really good. I liked Companion yeah.
Speaker 2:Maybe we're seeing a style start to develop here from a truly creative, inspired person and he did have purpose behind that. Or, yeah, maybe the only whitest kid you know who was worth a damn died and, uh, he just got lucky on the second try. But I think I'm with you in that I need to see this again. I think there might be something here that we're missing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think there's no way we couldn't have missed something. I'm not the most perceptive person in the world. I had to have missed something. Even Luke was bringing up stuff and I was like, oh shit, I didn't even think about that. I even think that it has an overall message of overlooking anyone in society, because this woman is clearly overlooked. She somehow just stays under. She looks fucking crazy and still people are just like she seems harmless though it's like yeah, she's clearly has some sort of screw, like you can't, yeah, but yet she's overlooked and just like kind of the and then, sure enough, the cop falls for it, walks in somehow he doesn't see it, becomes zombified or whatever, like yeah, it's interesting, and I think even the each of them being like overlooked in their way of the when they fast cut to james in the back of the car still at night like that was so funny, everybody just burst out laughing.
Speaker 1:He's like, oh man, this sucks, he's headbutting this thing, let me out, yeah. When he fucking asked, he's like I don't want to be rude, but you're not gonna take that 50 000 reward for oh man, oh man so good so good well, I think it's time for our third portion of this.
Speaker 2:It's time, jesus Christ. It's time to insert ourselves drugs and alcohol into this bad boy. We've been going at this for over an hour.
Speaker 1:What would happen differently.
Speaker 2:What would happen differently? What would happen differently if you guys were in this film?
Speaker 1:Well, there was already drugs. They did really good with the drugs. Normally I could be like I'm gonna add drugs to this. It would just be the same movie.
Speaker 2:It'd just be the same thing, but with drugs dude.
Speaker 1:You'd just be James. Yeah, I'd just be James. It's right there. I don't know. He's a real hard drug. Yeah, he's a hardcore drug. You are not. He's got needles. He's got needles.
Speaker 2:I don't believe that you would allow yourself to get to that point where you're living in the tent for the sake of a fucking high. I think that I so, in my opinion, because you like to always do that where you blew your head off. But there's no reason to blow your head off right. There's a reason in this one. There's no immediate reason for that. There's no apocalypse. Everything seems normal on the cuff. So, yeah, does your perspective, do your perceptions, alter this in a meaningful way? And you gave this a really high rating, so I feel like you have something to give here that you don't usually on this portion of the podcast yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1:So I think if I was, you know, in this I'd definitely be, you know, high, because I'm high all the time, and so I think that, like you said, providing a really unique view, I would have seen what happened to benedict wong when he got hit by that car, and that was like one of the most gruesome scenes in the movie, like when they showed his corpse yeah, yeah, and they like they panned over his corpse stuff and I would have been there too and so amazing about that scene was that it was not visceral in the fact that it was right there.
Speaker 2:It was from josh Bolin's perspective, which was 100, 200 yards away. And then you could see his face drop when it happened and it took like two seconds, like one Mississippi, two Mississippi for us as an audience to go. Whoa shit, he just got hit by a car. Yeah, I thought that was really cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah and that was when the screaming started. You know, and I would have been there, I would have been like oh my god, oh my god, I would have like went to go over to see if he was all right.
Speaker 2:And then I would have gotten hit die.
Speaker 1:God damn. It all right, your turn I would like I had you though right, I had you right you did, I would be on a walk, probably, you know, smoking just having a nice time walking through this neighborhood, this house. I would see it on the right.
Speaker 1:I'd be like I'd be curious yeah, yeah kind of peeping in the dad would just walk out. Yeah, the weird wave to me and you'd go come over. That's fucking weird. But uh, he's pretty friendly. Hey, how you doing. He's just like kind of coming in. I'm like you would never walk towards someone who was waving like this. I would never do that no, no one fucking would.
Speaker 1:That drove me crazy dude I like how they both just like when the cop comes out and does it come over, I'm just like, oh my god, that's the creepiest fucking thing in the entire world the scene where she comes out and cuts her hair oh god, yeah, yeah, that was a good scene.
Speaker 2:Talked with me dude. That was intense. Yeah, I did not.
Speaker 1:You didn't know where it was going, dude, and I know that was something I going, dude, and I know they were willing to put a lot of uh, intense moments where it like put you on the edge, but they didn't need the drop of the jump scare and that was one of those moments where it never did but there was no drop scare, it was just super fucking creepy.
Speaker 2:That was to me. That was the creepiest scene.
Speaker 1:The concept of anyone being around me, in my house, in my car, and me not knowing and just like like never. Oh, that's just one of the most terrifying things in the world that was a winning.
Speaker 2:For sure that that scene alone made this a whole, like if you had you had taken everything else out.
Speaker 1:Horror film I don't know how I fucking, I don't know how I could like make this. I don't think I could make it better, like I I don't, so I don't think I'd end up.
Speaker 1:I would probably be one of the neighbors inside smoking, but I hear the destruction and then I just see all these children, ripping apart this old lady, and I'm just like, oh my god, and I throw up in my house and I'm like, I'm like throwing up. It's like you run over and you start throwing up on the kids. Oh stop, obviously aren't gonna attack me, because the spell's not to attack me, so I'll still be safe. Um, they'll just continue to maul this old lady and I'll just be covered in blood and vomit and crying in the air when that last thing, that old woman secret skill of hers she's an ex-fucking cross-country sprinter.
Speaker 1:She's quick, she's quick, I gotta say fucking like she could move.
Speaker 2:Yeah, which would make my contribution to this film harder for me. I would be the sole survivor of the last family she drained. You got away and whenever, alex, once upon a time and so when everything is fucking like going off, I would burst through a window in full like pilgrim hunter garb and I would start firing hand crossbows into her zombies, because I know what's coming.
Speaker 1:It's better than it's better than being fed by a tube for 20 years and die.
Speaker 2:I've seen it I've seen it yes, I was bust in with hand crossbows, uh, with a full pilgrim, get up, because I'm hunting a witch. You know, buckled hat and shit, and I would completely adopt an old school way of speech. You know, like die foul demon and things of that nature, I'd be, yeah, hucking holy water bombs and because after josh brolin was throwing zombies just repeatedly, because he's Josh Brolin and we had a cross, a cross country chase between an old women and 17 children, I feel like I would fit the theme. Sure Pilgrim Witch Hunter.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't have been surprised if a monster hunter showed up.
Speaker 2:That would have been surprised if a monster hunter showed up. That would have been. I would be pilgrim witch hunter busting through the window at the last second, saving alex with hand crossbows that hugh jackman style from that one fucking terrible movie van helsing, yeah, yeah that one reload clockwork style oh yeah yeah, oh yeah and I'm like, by the way bro, werewolves exist too, and I'm, and I'm just fucking machine gun hand crossbowing shit just from all parts of the town, supernatural animals are just running into your but yeah, this part of uh.
Speaker 2:Wherever the fuck we are, it's lousy with vampires. I've been dealing with them since I was 13. You're gonna experience that soon, young alex, and I will take him under my wing and turn him into the next hunter. Yeah, and that's what would have gotten the movie the five, yeah, yeah yeah, well, and then I would also kill josh brolin's child, because I've dealt with this before and know that, no, he is still a slave to the evil deities that control. You know that gave the witch her power and he'll just one day murder you.
Speaker 1:So they did hint that, they did hint it yeah, did they hint it?
Speaker 2:wait, what did they hint?
Speaker 1:I missed it I feel like it was like that it was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, with with the eye contact. Yeah, and the way that they started, they're still under a control.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a control, you know, and I think it might be I found that interesting because one last theory to bring up I know we're running long, this movie is so good. The teacher thinks she was being held for a soul transference Because they got her. She had her hair already, but I think the witch was going to try to take her body and maybe she did.
Speaker 2:That's a sexy little font. Maybe she did, and then it was just the teacher running for her life from the children in the class well, I feel if you take that, combine it with my pilgrim witch hunter, you have the makings of fucking weapons too yeah, absolutely, I'm going to get Danny glover to sign on. He's gonna be my sidekick, and pedro pascal will show up too.
Speaker 1:He's been dying to get out of weapons since it became a franchise, so I think it should be said at the world's largest naruto convention, so that you don't know who's actually being controlled by a witch and who's just really loves naruto hell yeah, fuck, yeah, everybody's running around oh my god, she's got them all. What a movie for a movie. I didn't think I'd like.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, well, and I feel it's time to end this bad boy on a high note. So, um, everyone, there you have it. You got the scores. Four out of five for a fucking horror film. Go see this fucking thing. I know Trevor Noah wasn't involved, but you know, eventually we have to move on. Um, yeah, definitely go see this thing. High and dry loves it. I'm your host, ryan bear north, with me, as always, james crosser and luke. Uh, thank you, fellas, and thank you all for listening. Bye.
