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Hosted by Ryan Baron North, James Crosslin, and Luke, High n' Dry tackles film and philosophy with their patented 3-part method. What makes them so special and fun? One of them is drunk, and the other two are really, really high. Welcome to a drunken chat at 3 in the morning with your best buds. Come talk movies and philosophy, and get wasted along the way. New episodes every other week! Music by AlexGrohl @ Pixabay
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Is 'Die Hard' the Ultimate Christmas Movie?
Is "Die Hard" the ultimate Christmas movie, or is it just an action-packed romp with a holiday backdrop? Join us this Christmas Eve as we sip on Knob Creek bourbon and indulge in some Black Friday cannabis deals, while tackling this age-old debate with our signature high and dry flair. We reminisce about the 80s, fondly recalling TV classics and new panel shows featuring Michael Ian Black, before diving into our structured three-part method to dissect "Die Hard." From assessing the film's quality, to exploring its deeper themes, and finally imagining ourselves in the movie, it's a conversation filled with whiskey-fueled insights and spirited debates.
As the conversation unfolds, we don't shy away from the polarizing reception of films like "Avatar," juxtaposing its storytelling with classics like "Dances with Wolves" and discussing the audience's thirst for mature thrillers akin to "The Thomas Crown Affair." We dissect Bruce Willis's everyman appeal and Alan Rickman's villainous charm, sparking debates over his performances in other films like "Dogma" and "Galaxy Quest." A humorous critique of J.K. Rowling's characterization choices in the Harry Potter series adds a whimsical twist to our analysis, while the iconic elements of "Die Hard" — from its dynamic cinematography to its diagenic music choices — keep us hooked.
In the final chapters, we venture into the realm of societal norms, the notion of the ends justifying the means, and the evolution of character dynamics in "Die Hard." We muse over the film's surprising progressiveness, lack of outdated stereotypes, and the complexities of John McClane's relationships. With a speculative twist, we imagine how a new character could shake up the plot, and explore precision in handling dangerous situations, all while humorously reimagining "Die Hard" with fresh perspectives. As we plan our holiday movie lineup, we look forward to "Muppet Christmas Carol" for New Year's, wrapping up our episode with laughter, whiskey, and a nod to the classics.
I feel like I don't have. I mean, we've all seen this movie a million fucking times and I have not.
Speaker 2:This was the first time I've ever watched this movie through no kidding, beginning to end yeah. I know right no wonder you're so goddamn progressive interesting, I still have to say that guy interesting, I still have to say that, hey, everybody, and merry christmas eve, or whatever it is you're celebrating this evening.
Speaker 1:Welcome to high and dry podcast, the only podcast keeping alive the fandom of uh that 80s, the uh, the uh. Fuck, what was the name of that show with the 80s show.
Speaker 2:Really the, the, the like the spinoff of that 70s show.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was terrible. I meant I love the eighties, oh.
Speaker 2:I love the eighties. Oh man, I watched so much. I love the. I love the eighties. It's come up in conversation several times this month. I don't know what nostalgia thing we're doing where everybody's looking back, but I love the 80s come up several times and, yeah, I liked that.
Speaker 1:I watched that show, for sure. I watched it too, and it was weird because, like I wasn't even I didn't have any fucking idea what they were talking about and it was just like an excuse to put Michael Ian Black on in front of a camera.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you mentioned Michael Ian Black. That's, one of the reasons he came up was because he's on. He's a panelist on a cnn show, uh, that's like a uh, an american version of a british show called have I got news for you? And it's hoisted by roy wood jr, who's very funny. He was on the daily show for a long time and it's got amber ruffin and michael ian black.
Speaker 1:There's three of them michael ian black to me was just always very off-putting he is he's.
Speaker 2:They play that up so well because he, he likes, he, he takes a lot of counterpoints or is like but what about? Horrible, weird thing?
Speaker 1:huh, okay, well and well. Then they also did the uh I love the 70s, and then the I love the 90s, just trying to cash in on it, but I don't think it ever. It went down that way well, anyway. So fucking out off the wall, though it was a bizarre time, it was a bizarre time. So, anyway, everybody, welcome to high and dry podcast. We won't actually be talking about I love the 80s we might.
Speaker 1:This is a movie that came out in 1988, what we're actually going to be talking about, um, because it is, uh, christmas eve when this is dropping. Thank you for spending your christmas eve not with your family, friends and loved ones, but with us. You thick kings, you, um, thank you so much. We love our thin kings also. Yeah, and our medium size kings and the medium yep and the plus, all of them, all of them, just just all the kings we only like kings though but kings is also gender neutral.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, yeah yeah, any kind of monarch, anybody who has their place at the top of a hierarchy. Those are the people that we love.
Speaker 1:Obviously. So tonight we're going to be talking about Die Hard. I'm your host, Ryan Baron North, With me, as always, James Crosland.
Speaker 1:Hi we're going to dive right on into this thing. So tonight we're going to be tackling Die Hard. All right. Every year, the one thing that millennials have brought to this world is that every year we argue about whether or not this is a Christmas movie. And tonight we're going to settle it, and we're going to do it in a three-part method. So first we're going to rate this movie. We're going to tell you how good Die Hard is definitively All right. Then we're going to dive into some of the deeper thoughts that were embedded into Die Hard that you probably missed Finally.
Speaker 1:Finally, we're going to really unpack this thing and then, finally, we're going to insert ourselves into the film. But what makes it so fun, so special, is that we're going to be doing it drunk and high. So, james, what do you? What are you smoking on this Mary of evenings?
Speaker 2:So I actually got a really good deal on black Friday for weed and so I've bought probably a year's worth of cannabis for me and I got like I got like a large variety of stuff, so finally I'm gonna have some. I'm gonna have some variety on the on the podcast again. So we got gush mints tonight. It's an indica that is karyophylline dominant and scott limonene and humaline and linalool, and so this should be a very relaxing and euphoric sensation. I would bet.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so right in line with the emotions that were offered up in diehard you know we'll get to it, but all right.
Speaker 1:Well, I'll be joining you with a knob Creek selection tonight. I've been on a knob Creek kind of thing lately, um, but this one is a single barrel select With a Knob Creek selection tonight. I've been on a Knob Creek kind of thing lately, but this one is a single barrel select that's just called Good Hits, I don't fucking know Distilled in 2015. This is 120 horsepower, so it's going to get me where I need to be Rather quickly, right before bed. That's good. My heart's going to be just beating all the way until 3 in the morning.
Speaker 2:That's going to be just beating all the way till three in the morning. That's going to be awesome, poisoning me.
Speaker 1:I'll just be lying there in the dark, unable to actually fall asleep.
Speaker 2:You'll be unconscious, constantly digesting more poison.
Speaker 1:So I'll be unconscious, not getting any actual restful sleep. Merry Christmas. So here's our first one, this first shot, this first toast, this one goes out to our film Die Hard, cheers, cheers, that is spicy John McTiernan movie.
Speaker 2:By the way, I was pretty excited when I saw that because, uh, you know john mctiernan has done some good movies. He did predator. He did, uh, he did thomas crown affair, which was pretty famous for like the pierce brosnan on a boat scene I know they were looking to do a predator uh crossover with that one. With Thomas Crown Affair, where the billionaire thief encounters the Predator on one of his.
Speaker 1:Correct. I know that's what they were going for. They just could never find the funding and at the time Danny Glover was just too powerful and Predator did that.
Speaker 2:You know, in that Call of Cthulhu game we played where where my character disrupted everything he was. He was based on pierce brosnan from the thomas crown affair in in like it's like not not a hundred percent, obviously his, his demeanor was way different, but like I, he was a rich art thief who stole for the joy of stealing and not because he needed anything, and he built up all these skills around stealing. I'd base it on him, huh.
Speaker 1:Wow Okay.
Speaker 2:I might have to go back and watch that movie.
Speaker 1:Well, well, this, this second one goes out to the, uh, the predator crossovers that should have, could have, would have. Um, here's to those cheers, cheers, oh man. So, on the second, go around um it. Like you feel this one at the front of your mouth, oh, okay, yeah, for those of you curious, you know, if you want to feel it in the back of the throat or on the front of your teeth. Um, this is a front of your teeth, kind of one, right on the tip of the tongue that sounds enjoyable I don't know, I couldn't tell you Well either way, you're not enjoying it.
Speaker 2:Is that the review so far?
Speaker 1:It's got a. It's got an interesting flavor, because I've just I've recently been tackling, tackling another 120 proofer from Knob Creek that I enjoyed that didn't have the same kind of standout flavor. It's like it's like the I don't know what you call him, but the distillery master uh ashed his cigarette in the barrel at the end and I just keep kind of catching that oh, it's just really really smoky.
Speaker 2:This one, yeah, very smoky. I hate smoky. Like it when it's too smoky. It's so unappealing. I like smoke flavored stuff, but tone it the fuck down, guys.
Speaker 1:This one's a little smoky. Well, this final one goes out to our newest listeners out there, and we actually have a few to jump around from. We got ones coming at us from San Francisco, we have some from Madrid, we have a few in Chelsea, alabama, we have another one in Acre, north District, wherever, and then one in Malaga, malaga.
Speaker 2:Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:And Gainesboro, Lincolnshire.
Speaker 2:Did you say Acer A-C-E-R?
Speaker 1:No, no, it's Acre A-C-R-E.
Speaker 2:Oh, is it Acre In Syria?
Speaker 1:Nope I think, oh, is it. Akra the in in syria? Uh, nope, I think, uh, oh, is it israel where is it at? Oh, it's israel, I don't know. We so we we saw, we saw viewers on this. Uh, when we were just bashing denzel, we got, uh, viewers from israel, france, spain, united United Kingdom, australia and Germany all crammed in there. What?
Speaker 2:the fuck.
Speaker 1:Our biggest viewership came out of Germany.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's wild. What the fuck is going on.
Speaker 1:Are people listening to?
Speaker 2:us on VPNs or something maybe.
Speaker 1:Could be. Could be, or just Germany fucking hates denzel washington um international audience.
Speaker 2:If you're, if you're out there and you're listening to this, you got to reach out to ryan baron north on where where's the way to reach you now, ryan baron north?
Speaker 1:I'm the only one he's the only.
Speaker 2:He's the only, ryan baron north, reach out, tell him. Tell him how you found us, please, and why you listened and, if you liked it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would love to know. I would love to know. So yeah, here's to our international listeners Cheers, cheers.
Speaker 2:Merry Christmas. What the fuck are you doing here? Merry Christmas, happy Hanukkah? I don't know, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:Kwanzaa.
Speaker 1:All the things, all those dudes are crushing it. You're all crushing it, not fucking crushing it. All right. So it's time to dive into the first part of this podcast. All right, we're gonna break down die hard. All right, everyone's favorite fucking action movie and we're gonna tell you if you are delusional or if it is actually a good movie. Um, we're going to do it in a method. We're going to break this thing down into five little parts. We're going to rate it on a scale of one to five on story, acting, cinematography, score and re-watchability. All right, we're going to average those things together and we're going to give you the definitive five star well, hold on, it was scoring acting cinematography score and rewatch ability okay I got it so, oh jeez, I need to just have a post-it note well, we're just gonna bounce back and forth here.
Speaker 1:So, uh, die hard. The uh, the classic story. James, I have to start with story yeah, oh well, I thought this.
Speaker 2:I thought the story was uh, it left a little to be a little. It left me a little wanting in the year 2024. Um, I maybe, I maybe wish I saw this movie, you know, when I was younger or whatever, and had a more emotional attachment to it, but the story was to me, all right, the uh. I thought the dialogue was mostly bad.
Speaker 1:I thought that we're not on acting, writing, nothing like that.
Speaker 2:Yet story is. I mean, yeah, I feel like dialogue is part of story. Maybe maybe that should be more underacting. Um, but it turned out they were just thieves. I was like when they even pointed out in the story like this is all just a robbery, like that's what all this is for and and legitimately, that's like a really, uh, great point, they legitimately at their start was like, oh yeah, they did. They were like let's murder a bunch of people and shit for for a robbery.
Speaker 2:We're gonna murder a building full of people, or whatever huh, I've all.
Speaker 1:You just gave me a, a golden path, but we'll do that in the next stage. So what would you rank the diehard story out of five? I?
Speaker 2:don't think it was like. Well, I don't know In the context of the time, I wish someone who had a more attachment than me went first. I was the person coming in late. Well, I like that we could bounce it back and forth.
Speaker 1:I think that you know, look, the diehard fans of this thing are fucking delusional. All right, All right, and it's time that that gets on record.
Speaker 2:So so I'd heard, I'd heard about, I've seen clips of diehard and I've seen the mashups of diehard and the memeification of it and so I understood the story, the core story, pretty pretty, you know, generally. Uh, I didn't feel like I learned that much more or that the twists were just so unbelievable or whatever. It was pretty rote for nowadays stories, uh. So I'd give it like a two.
Speaker 1:A two, okay, all right. Well, there you go, it was long.
Speaker 2:It was a long story. It was so long, it was over two hours. That story could have been told in 80 minutes and I would have been like die hard, it's the best fucking movie ever.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, a little long, stretched it out a little bit, okay, alright, yeah, for me, you know, I the story is simple and I would definitely agree that, yeah, we didn't need that much time On it. The story is very simple. Um, I think there's a lot I want to unpack In the story in the second part of this, but I will also say about Simple stories. Um, it's like some of the best songs are the simplest. You know three chords, memorable melody, you know just something that gets stuck in your head, and I think that's why maybe this one is so longevity-ing. Yeah, I could see that being the case as far as story goes. I mean, like you know, if we're talking, the top is, you know fucking, you know godfather and um, citizen kane and all that kind of fucking shit. Um, avatar three, three. Avatar was a diehard ass story. All right, that was. I'm not going to get into it. I'm not going to get into the studio. All right, avatar left a lot to be desired in a lot of places.
Speaker 2:I'm just going to say, best story of all time, according to the box office. Fucking dances with wolves anyway, oh my god and this should just go off the r rating.
Speaker 1:Just show us, show us the blue breasts yeah, we wanted to see the kitty kitties yes, come on, all right, anyway. Uh, I'm gonna give it a three. I'm gonna give it a three simple as that I give it a three middle of the road, like, yeah, it's not the best story in the world, it's not the best story in the world, but let's talk. You felt it was confidently executed yeah, yeah, it obviously was.
Speaker 1:I mean it's been, you know, I think I think in part two is when we'll really unpack why this thing has lasted so long, and I have some interesting comparisons on 80s culture compared to its sort of resurgence right now, especially in toxicity. But we'll get to that later.
Speaker 2:So you know what? You know what I find very funny you mentioned, like you know, the story holds up and stuff and you know at least it's confidently done. But I got to tell you I think maybe this kind of movie is not for me, because Shara actually gets on me like she, she laughs at me all the time, because I like pause movies, like during explosions, like it happens all the time. It's like when I'm like, okay, I gotta, like I feel like I need to get up and do something.
Speaker 2:it's always like during an explosion or some kind of climax of action and it's like that's where I'm feeling bored, like I felt like the movie did not, like I feel like there's a way to competently write action in a story that makes me engaged, but when you just rely on explosions and like you know, and car chases and stuff, it doesn't. I think that's why I gave it to to. I just wanted to justify myself because you kind of triggered no, I feel you, it makes sense, it makes sense.
Speaker 1:Um, no, no, I I think that, uh, you and I, I think generally, we sort of, it seems we sort of drift closer towards maybe taut sexy thrillers, yeah.
Speaker 2:I like a taut sexy thriller, absolutely yeah, a Thomas Crown affair, if you will. A taut sexy thriller well, let's talk acting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, who fucking brought it? Bruce Willis was great, I thought. Bruce.
Speaker 2:Willis did a really good job. I mean he launched it.
Speaker 1:He launched a career as uh, you know, he launched a career as this every man, not every man, it's the every man we all thought we could be like. Our delusional minds allowed us to accept that I could be this impending divorcee man. He's not really focused on his abs. He's not sylvester stalloning it. He's not arnold schwarzeneggering it. He's just a dude. His hairline is fucking gone.
Speaker 2:Um but the 19 year old flight attendant will still check you out on your way off the plane, right, you still get.
Speaker 1:You still got that danger, you know you know people, just don't mistake, don't mistake my kindness for weakness, ma'am all right, I'm glad I'm I'm fucking glad that john mcclain didn't have a facebook. Um, it would be a. It would be a fucking nightmare, but uh, he sold it.
Speaker 2:He sold it yeah, he did sell it. Yeah, he sold it. And alan rickman, I've people, people always say, you say he's fantastic. I thought honestly it was, that was shit.
Speaker 1:I people always I think it was supposed to be. I don't think it was. It was like dude, you're like dude, you're a comic book villain. You're a comic book villain. Fucking, do it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, maybe I wasn't. I wasn't so impressed, but I know it's a beloved role for him and people love him in that role and when they see Alan Rickman they think Hans Gruber, yeah, but, but it doesn't have dogma. Oh, you think Dogma? Yeah, it's got Metatron.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought he was awesome in that, honestly, he was I thought that were, because like first he was Hans Gruber and just super railroaded into this comic bookie villain and then after that he was Snape and Snape sucks he's an asshole.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and we don't talk about it. He did a great job with the character, though he did a great job he did, and I think that's what happened with Hans Gruber.
Speaker 1:I think that's what happened with him. Well, that's the thing. What was weird is there was like this redemption arc where, like oh, he was a nice guy the whole time and in love with Italy. No, no, like oh, he was a nice guy the whole time and in love with italy.
Speaker 2:No, no, he was a toxic nice guy the whole fucking time. Well, we learned a lot about jk rowling and it really uh makes sense.
Speaker 1:Now, yeah, uh, it makes sense, and that I always think of alan.
Speaker 2:Oh good, no, no you go.
Speaker 1:Well, just that, her, uh, you know that, her fucking lead character, that you know the little asshole that launched a, a billion in book sales, um, was a c student. Given everything, becomes a cop. Yeah, that's our hero, that's exactly right but uh anyway, um my alan rickman.
Speaker 2:It's always galaxy quest. That, that's what I think.
Speaker 1:Oh, fantastic yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but low price. He was incredible in Galaxy.
Speaker 1:Quest. I think Galaxy Quest is one of the most underrated films. Yeah, yeah, not even not even Tim Allen could ruin it.
Speaker 2:I seriously like we've started like kind of an old movie night with a group of Not even Tim Allen could ruin it. Seriously, we've started like kind of an old movie night with a group of Cindy's friends and next time I'm going to suggest Galaxy Quest.
Speaker 1:I think they'd love it. It even has Justin Long in there no-transcript. Um called sigourney weaver yes and weaver, she's looking fantastic in that point uh rockwell sam rockwell, yep, yep, yep um tony shalhoub. Yeah, tony shalhoub. Oh, my god um yeah, no fantastic movie. Anyway, go watch galaxy quest. Yeah, watch galaxy than Die Hard. He's great acting, you'll see Alan Rickman kill it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he's doing hammy acting, but with a self-awareness Like, if you want to. That's the reason why I have trouble giving this like a super high score is because I've seen how good he can do it. He can do it so much better it's.
Speaker 1:Galaxy. It's roles like galaxy quest that make me think that. So, like hans gruber, the director said, hey, you're a comic book villain. And then galaxy quest, the director's like, hey, you're, uh, you know, just a sci-fi fucking trope and you're sick of it. And he was able to, yeah, and he was able to do. Yeah, he, just he's able to do whatever you fucking toss him into.
Speaker 2:Yeah for acting. I'd give this a three and a half or four, I guess let's just get. Let me just give it a four because we round up around.
Speaker 1:OK, all right, yeah, for me, I, yeah. I think you know this launched Bruce Willis. You know he's the first actor to sell his AI likeness. Really, before he, like before the dimension, everything took over he, he sold his image nice, we'll see how that turns out.
Speaker 1:I don't know if anyone was really clamoring for that image at the end, but hey, who knows? Yeah, who knows, maybe we want to see him again. Yeah, for the acting. I think Bruce Willis was awesome. I think I liked. I liked it for what it was and I'm going to go with you and I'm going to do the four as well.
Speaker 2:So let's talk cinematography. I thought the cinematography was, uh, pretty good and I think that this movie was pre-steady cam and you know you saw you could see a lot of movement of the camera person, but it gave it. It gave it like a more personal feel. This came from a time before movies did this jump cut combat, you know, like where people get into fistfights. There's like cut, cut, cut, cut to cut to an elbow and they cut to a hand, then cut to their faces. You know it was. It was a time where we where the camera person was actually following the action had to get it all and, um, I liked it. It felt pretty personal. It was a little rough around the edges though at times, um, we got, we.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know, the cinematographer did a really good job showing bruce willis's feet oh yeah, he loved them show this is actually one of uh, this was one of uh tarantino's actually first roles, like where he was credited um and they put him behind the camera I didn't even have to give him any tokens, he just kept showing me his feet uh, tarantino, you're gonna kill it in this town. And off he went.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cinematography, though I thought they had some good shots. The vent scene is pretty, pretty classic. Yeah, you know they had really good blocking, like I felt. I feel like I feel like McTiernan does an excellent job with blocking a scene where he, where he places like the environment around people and the environment around people, he makes the space really navigable. The floors that were under construction, you had an idea of where everybody was. Sometimes he'd play a fun game with the environment. I thought the cinematography was pretty good.
Speaker 1:I also give it a four, okay, yeah, so I also enjoyed it. The scene in particular that I think of was when Bruce Willis is underneath the executive table and the terrorist is above it. Terrorist is above it. I felt that they did a pretty good job of like, like, I like, I liked how it it took this ceo, you know upper echelon, you know top of the city, la, um, and I liked seeing, I thought it was well done, I liked it a lot, um.
Speaker 1:But then there were some scenes where I felt there was a lot of strange open space, like, uh, when he finally hangs the one terrorist, yeah, and it's just like this sort of this wide shot of, yeah, and he's off to the side, yeah, like it looked like a halloween, like a haunted house at that point. Um, so you know, but so, yeah, I would also have to give it a four, um, just because I thought it was really good. I liked a lot of it, I liked a lot of the work on it, um, but just every once in a while there was something that was just reminded me that, oh, this is still the 80s, they weren't quite where we should be at.
Speaker 2:That, uh was still fantastic did a pretty good job for the stuff at their disposal, you know definitely that's the thing that I'll give a four to someone who's trying hard on cinematography and doing the small things that other, like current studios seem to be grappling with being able to do.
Speaker 2:You know cinema like any kind of blocking or any kind of interesting shots. I gave trap a good score for the set, you know for its cinematography, because it was trying things and it was doing. It was doing the basic shit that makes cinematography good, definitely.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, no, I agree Agreed. So four on there, all right. So let's talk about the score, the music. How did it? How did it make you feel?
Speaker 2:So I I had high hopes because of the diagenic music sequence at the beginning where he turns the you know radio on in the car he took in the limo turns the radio on in the limo and the radio begins to play for us. Like it, it does double duty, as like in the story, and you know, uh, and for the audience, first movie score, and so I had high hopes for that, and then after that I didn't notice the score at all. Okay, and so you didn't like Christmas and Hollis by run DMC.
Speaker 2:I don't know I missed it entirely. I I honestly I was pretty bored throughout this movie, so I I took a lot of I was able to throughout this movie, so I, I took a lot of. I was able to take notes on acting instead of talking to stuff, but I just I just spaced on score. It didn't touch me at all in one way or another, so I don't know in a yeah Okay. Give it an.
Speaker 1:N a score. All right, yeah, and I would say at the, the beginning of the action sequences, I could feel the swell I did like the, I did like Christmas and Hollis being in there and it's one of the reasons why I'll argue that it is a Christmas movie. Was it the?
Speaker 2:first song Was that. The song that I heard when I was like this is a like this is going to be good. It was like it was probably, that was probably, it don't remember probably. Let's say so, that was probably it. That was being played on the radio and I was like, all right, let's go you know, yeah, yeah, no, yeah, without a um.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was yeah.
Speaker 2:They say they say christmas like 40 fucking times and the last line of the movie is about christmas. It's obviously a christmas movie, guys yeah, oh, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, without a doubt, but we'll save that for the last 10 minutes. Um, so anyway, um, yeah, for my score, I'm just gonna give it a three. Um, it did what it was supposed to. It didn't leave the movie in silence, and I like christmas and hollis, so it is what it is. So, finally, rewatch ability where you at in a.
Speaker 2:I don't think this movie was for me. I don't know what to say. I know people want to watch this movie and for many people this is a rewatchable movie.
Speaker 1:I watch it once a fucking year, but who watches it in? June.
Speaker 2:I don't know, I have no idea, I don't. I've never seen this movie because I was really like I think I've got the gist of this movie. And it turns out I did have the gist of this movie, uh, and so I don't need to watch it ever again if I ever get the where I'm ever like, oh yeah, I, I want to. I want to watch die hard, I'll watch. Uh, there's a youtuber or there. She worked for funny or die and she did a series for funny or die where she, where she would get drunk and watch movies and she would do like a live watch of movies and then she'd cut it down to the best parts and it was called tam gets drunk and watches. And if I ever want to watch die hard, I'll go watch that because it hits all the key parts, it's enjoyable, and then I, and then I feel like I've seen die hard pretty much.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, you ain't wrong um and uh. So, or you can listen to this podcast there you go. Well, my question uh, remember last christmas, uh, when I gave you my heart um, we did, uh, we did. The one where santa was a nordic entity oh yes, john leguizamo. Yeah, I remember that, which would you rather watch, oh like. So like christmas eve is tonight and so you've got to decide on a movie that you're going to put on while you fucking rip in bourbon and eggnog.
Speaker 2:I probably watched die hard again. Die hard is more competently done, I think.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah.
Speaker 2:I did not like that. Is it John Leguizamo's fault? John Leguizamo did not do a great job in that movie, If I remember correctly.
Speaker 2:I feel like you really phoned it in, if I like, from what I remember in this movie don't quote me, go listen to the other podcast, I guess but I felt like that movie was really phoned in. I don't think I had a bunch of fun with it, but I'd rather watch this movie, even though I just saw it. I'd rather watch Die Hard again and be like maybe I missed something, maybe you mean, okay, just out of curiosity.
Speaker 1:Alright, well, I have seen die hard. I don't know how many times I, you know, I, I 11. Yeah, that sounds accurate. That sounds accurate. So, um, and it has become sort of a you know, a, a tradition for a lot of people. Um, and if you told me tonight like, hey, man, uh, come on over, uh, we're gonna, we're gonna chill, we're gonna, shoulda, coulda, would of our lives, drink a little bit and I'm gonna have diehard on on the background, like all right, cool, um, I'll watch it the 12th time, um, and next year I'll probably watch it the 13th time. So I would honestly say the rewatch ability, then, is a five, because I've seen it more times than I have fingers and I will probably see it more times than I have fingers. Again, um, I've probably seen die hard not as much as rush hour, two, um, but but, and not as much as shanghai nights, but, or noon, what about big trouble, little china, or big trouble, little china, but it's right after there.
Speaker 2:So um, what about? What about predator?
Speaker 1:it's after that too, but what about?
Speaker 2:what about underworld? What?
Speaker 1:about Underworld. It's above Underworld, it's above Underworld.
Speaker 2:So for that I gotta give it a five Die.
Speaker 1:Hard is under.
Speaker 2:Underworld.
Speaker 1:for me You've had to watch Underworld. I I've seen underworld more times k back in sales underworld. Oh shit, oh my god. Well, so with that being the case, as far as talent, high and dry podcast gives die Hard a 3.6. We round up around here because we're nice guys like that. Die Hard gets a 4 out of 5.
Speaker 2:Abomination Maybe we should start rounding down to the. Our system is destroyed.
Speaker 1:We start rounding down to the half.
Speaker 2:I'd give it a 3.5. It's gotta be rounded all the way down to3. I gotta stop voting NA. I should have voted with my heart and really destroyed this movie. That everyone loves.
Speaker 1:You gave us a lot of N8s, which allowed it to maintain a strong score. That's fine.
Speaker 2:Whatever?
Speaker 1:I don't care, none of this matters.
Speaker 2:It's definitive, though, and you can't argue it. You can never argue it again.
Speaker 1:Also, it doesn't matter, alright. So there you go, folks. Um, die hard gets a four out of five. Congratulations, die hard. The. The indecision of one of our voters allowed you to maintain a very strong score, if I'm not mistaken, the strongest score since we started scoring.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think this is possibly the strongest movie we've scored.
Speaker 1:That's depressing, but it makes sense, because this was a better movie than Trap.
Speaker 2:Yeah, trap had me more engaged, but I didn't feel like I'd seen Trap yet.
Speaker 1:But you were engaged in a way where, like just fucking M Night Shyamalan was just fucking dick slapping you and you were wondering if he was gonna stop and then I turned to you with him slapping his dick in my face and I'm like I'm engaged right now, exactly, I'm pretty engaged which is a normal way to feel when someone's fucking smacking you with their dick. I love how uh m night shamalon uh came back to hear this episode and we're still talking shit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um so it's time for the second part of this thing.
Speaker 1:It's time to dive to hear this episode, and we're still talking shit. Yeah, yeah, well, anyway, um. So it's time for the second part of this thing. It's time to dive into the deeper meaning of diehard Um. So, before we do that, it's time to get a little more drunk, it's time to get a little more high. Let's line them up, ooh, cause I I do have some thoughts.
Speaker 2:I do, oh, because I, I do have some thoughts, I do, do you?
Speaker 1:yeah, do you want to go first? Sure, okay, all right, here's to uh the higher thoughts of uh. Now, here's to m night shamlon smacking you with his dick with another movie.
Speaker 2:Thanks for keeping my attention.
Speaker 1:I'm not bored. I'm not happy. I'm not happy that this is happening, but I am engaged, I am engaged.
Speaker 2:He's doing his job. He's doing his job.
Speaker 1:Wish he'd stop calling me a good boy. All right, so it's time to get onto the golden path. I feel like we're there. Yeah, I got four ounces of 120 horsepower whiskey flowing through in my I'm throwing flowing through my blood. Um, so let's talk about the higher thoughts that were behind diehard. And uh, the first thing, um, this thing, this thing was a, a crossfade album. Before we had crossfade. This was a creed album. Before creed came out, um, this was, you know, fucking three days, grace divorced dad.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah, I wasn't sure where you're going with it, but yeah, divorced dad rock but a movie this was divorce.
Speaker 1:Dad rack in a movie. Um, you know where. You know she's the bad one. She's the bad one for having ambition. Um, she's the bad one for not wanting to fucking drag you around. You're the good one for being a cop. Um, we hate the press. The press are fucking animals and monsters.
Speaker 2:That's true, journalists are terrible.
Speaker 1:Journalists are terrible, and I thought that was weird Because I've been seeing a lot of things pop up on the various social medias lately Of like a celebration that, uh, you could use the word retard again.
Speaker 2:I mean who said like one, who said that you couldn't, and two who's saying that you can, who's saying you can't do it. There are people who are saying, hey, you know, using that word when you say that makes my son or daughter, who has a learning disability, feel like an outsider and it would be great if you didn't do that. And then there's another person saying say whatever the fuck you want, who cares what anybody feels? Fuck that kid. And you're like, oh, thank god, someone is finally telling me that I give a shit about anyone anymore yeah and uh, I'm seeing this.
Speaker 1:Uh, I mean especially, you know, we had that last election. Yep, uh, there was an election recently yeah, there was an election recently, believe it or not.
Speaker 2:Oh, my God.
Speaker 1:And so I'm seeing this vast. It's like a lot of people feel that permission has been granted to be a dick bag.
Speaker 2:Why are you always asking people for permission? If you were a dick already, whatever you're a dick you don't need, I would rather you didn't ask for permission to be a dick. I'd rather you weren't a dick by your own volition.
Speaker 1:but why are?
Speaker 2:you? Why are you asking for permission to be a dick? What kind of loser fucking asked for permission to be a dick?
Speaker 1:it's because they need that validation and they need the okay um, because they don't believe or want to be the bad guy in the argument.
Speaker 2:So so it's like a, so it's like a self-delusion that because they've got permission, that they are in the right like inherently so.
Speaker 1:Now that they can be the good guy again, they don't like god. It wasn't. It wasn't that I'm a dick. It wasn't that I'm a dick, it's that everyone around me has become too sensitive.
Speaker 2:That's such fucking low energy thought Mm-hmm. Yeah, these people need to burn their calories on thinking.
Speaker 1:It's endemic, and so what I'm seeing here is a return to a lot of the old stuff, and one of the things that Kaye motherfucker. Well, one of the things that struck me as interesting was how blatantly evil press was portrayed. Yeah, yeah, yeah and.
Speaker 2:Just self-serving anything for a story, like it's not capital, or or like you know the way careers are structured, that that created this system where a reporter has to be like I need to be at the center of action immediately to advance my career or I'm gonna be stuck you doing shitty stuff my whole life.
Speaker 1:But but by by doing this, this narrative of what a reporter is, you know, the ones who are telling us, hey, the person you like is behaving like a dickbag, are now just universally wrong. You know you could do anything, you're going to do anything for a story. You're knocking on the door of that one place. But then it was also interesting to see this strange blend of what a dick bag is. So we see him roll up to the house he's the dick bag. He's part of journalism, he's a piece of shit. But then he threatens to have this woman deported. He's a piece of shit, yeah, and it's like that's now that that guy is now two sides of this strange little american aisle in one dude at this woman's door like he's a piece of shit, part of the press, and he's a piece of shit for trying to get an innocent woman deported I bet a lot of people who love this movie love the idea of doing anything to that.
Speaker 2:That that, uh, the ends make the means what's, how's it go? The ends justify the means. Like they're those kind of people and they would. They would probably fucking threaten so to get someone deported to get what they wanted. If you, if they were like, I would never actually call them. I'm just threatening them, it's just. It's just, you know, to get what I want. It's not like I'm gonna actually do it. Oh yeah, they don't think of themselves as bad guys. They're just like I'm just gonna do. I'm gonna do anything in my means to get the thing I want, because it's doggy dog out here yeah, yeah, which, yeah, it's, uh, it's this perpetuating circumstance that, uh, yeah, makes everything really sad.
Speaker 1:um, yeah and no. Then it like I feel what's what's weird is? I think that there's this strange reversal when it comes to looking back at Die Hard, where you look at other movies and you're like wow, that didn't age well, yeah. And then you look at Die Hard and go go wow, we didn't age that well, we made this worse than it was yeah, that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:I hadn't thought about that we made this bad. Now, like 2024, made this bad I loved that there were no gay or trans jokes in this movie. So often when you look back at at movies from that time, they really they take a very easy target on gay and trans people and I was waiting for like a crocodile dundee moment or some bullshit like that Predator has a one gay joke, I think, and I was like, oh, come on the first five minutes. Yeah, like, oh, come, come on Predator.
Speaker 2:But this one this one didn't have any, and I was really impressed by that. Yeah, we slid, we slid backwards from diehard, from diehard.
Speaker 1:We are. Yeah, we slid, we slid backwards from diehard, from diehard. We are less progressive now than diehard, um, and it's, it's strange because, like, the lines of just the morality of it have been completely blurred. Yeah, you know, just just in that reporter's you know thoughts and feelings alone. He's evil as it is, but then he's doing evil shit that the people who call reporters evil do. And meanwhile we got this divorcee cop out there just fucking giving these thieves the time of their lives.
Speaker 1:Do as much violence as possible until your separated wife forgives you and takes you back, dude, and that creates such a wild delusion in like what just you know potential partners and and women want.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, fucking what. You don't have to directly address your problems in your relationship. You can solve the problems in your relationship by doing other things that you value.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like dude, john McClane, what if you didn't happen to be there when terrorist take took over? How would you have saved your marriage? You wouldn't have. Yeah, there would be like he would have refused therapy. Uh this is the one thing I do well the only thing I can do is just kill people without shoes on, uh, me being the one without the shoes, not them, in case you were confused I did word that weirdly. I will be the one not wearing shoes.
Speaker 2:The terrorists I kill of course, will be wearing shoes, but yeah.
Speaker 1:He would have had a lot easier time if he didn't meet that guy on the airplane. Well, so, if you ever watch. So after that there was Die Hard 2, where he saves his wife who's trying to divorce him again, but this time on a plane.
Speaker 2:Really, yes, no, I thought die hard 2 was on like a subway and stuff.
Speaker 1:I thought they had that's die hard 3 and that and die hard 3 is where he teams up with sam jackson and and the divorce has finally gone through Die hardest. There's only so many terrorists you can kill to make me love you, and it's just not working anymore.
Speaker 2:I have to kill a small country to get my wife back.
Speaker 1:This time, dude, why don't you just talk to her? Hell, no, Never, I would refuse. Have you seen that that?
Speaker 2:woman. Have you listened to her talk? Um, I'll talk to terrorists and the audience and then we'll just we'll pretend, like I did that with my wife and then, uh, when they returned with Die Hard 4, like Die Harder or whatever, the fuck Live Free or Die Hard, live Free or yeah, whatever.
Speaker 1:It was With that one actor that they tried to force on us, but it just wasn't happening.
Speaker 2:I don't know, but I know Kevin Smith was in one of the later ones.
Speaker 1:Kevin Smith Well no, so Die Hard 4,. So then they introduced Justin Long. Oh yeah, justin Long. It was this movie about how the old ways need to survive. Because you can't do everything with a computer, sometimes you need a divorcee willing to kill a bunch of people.
Speaker 2:Yeah, this is the one I watched. This one has Kevin Smith. It also has Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Timothy Oliphant, the bad guy. This was the first Die Hard I saw. Oh, and it was terrible. This is the first Die Hard I saw.
Speaker 1:Terrible. Well, die Hard. 5 was a good day to die hard, where we encountered Jai Courtney. Jai Courtney is Bruce Willis's son who refuses to talk to the man. But between each movie they just gloss over what a fucking narcissistic individual john mclean is, and then in the movie his family forgives him because he kills a bunch of terrorists yeah, nobody want.
Speaker 1:Nobody in his family likes him or wants to be around him that's so true there comes a point where yo dude, it's not how many terrorists you can kill, you need to fucking talk to a professional don't want to, and so you'll be tolerated for that.
Speaker 2:You should. You should expect being tolerated for that, because eventually people will suffer without you to to rescue them with by by scurious means yeah, and it's just like that's not, for.
Speaker 1:that's not real life, dad and right. That's not real life and people need to stop looking at this as more than just a shitty written action movie. This is not a role model. John McClane is not a role model. Look, we just gave this movie four out of five. All right, we enjoy it. We're going to watch it again. I'm going to watch it probably 20 more times before I die.
Speaker 2:I am never going to watch this movie again.
Speaker 1:You know, we all say that. We all say that I feel pretty confident. Um, I'll probably see it this year. Um, within the next week I might come up, but, um, do not turn this man into a role model. He, you know, look, at the end of the day, we all like you. You guys all carry, like you know, your fucking uh gun around because you hope one day you'll be john mcclain and all the pieces of shit part of you will be justified as you murder a bunch of people at a walmart. Um, yeah, it's just not gonna happen.
Speaker 2:Instead, work on the piece of shit parts of you yeah, make people like you not not for you know, because you, because you do things that they begrudgingly accept in order to save their lives or whatever like you try, try to be a joy to be around for the people in your life. People like that. They don't like to begrudgingly keep people in their life. They like to emphatically the people in your life, people like that. They don't like to begrudgingly keep people in their life. They like to emphatically keep people in their life.
Speaker 1:Your likability, your tolerability shouldn't hinge on a fantasy scenario where you kill a bunch of people because you are the one who is brave enough to do it. Oh shit.
Speaker 2:It's crazy that there's like legitimately people out there who, even if they haven't seen this movie, still like personify that mindset. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're, yeah, you being a tool. Yeah, you're an asshole, sorry, all right. So, with that being said, I think the golden path has been walked on this one. It's now time to get into the final portion of this film. It's time to insert ourselves into Die Hard. So, james, how does Die Hard change with the introduction?
Speaker 2:of you.
Speaker 1:I think you know immediately that you're the flight, you're the flight attendant, damn it he's like really girl, girl why. Sir, you cannot have a gun on this plane, arrest this man, john McClane, goes to jail right off the plane. Fucking sky marshals are on him. Being a cop does not allow you to fucking concealed. Carry across. Flew with a loaded gun, what the fuck?
Speaker 2:so that's it I, you know, when we have a when we, when we have a movie that I don't particularly like, it seems to be my strategy on how do I end this movie as fast as possible. I think I could have ended this movie in like a minute and 15 seconds.
Speaker 1:You flew with a loaded gun. How did you get past TSA?
Speaker 2:Oh shit, Either that or I'm Holly. I guess I could be Holly. Pretty good job.
Speaker 1:But I could see for you, though, if you're Holly, he does all the murder and everything like that, and you're like we still all the murder and everything like that, and you're like we still need to work on our problems don't touch me.
Speaker 2:Are you ready to have a conversation yet? No, okay, man, I need, I need some of that. I need some of that new york schlub dick. I can't wait that's what it is.
Speaker 1:Oh god, oh man. I mean, maybe that's something we haven't addressed with Holly. Is that something in her past allows her to continually bring in this toxic male?
Speaker 2:I think he's just good at fucking. I think she was like you want to come over to the house. I think the kids would love if you were over at the house. So would I.
Speaker 1:The kids aren't even home right now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I really need to get fucked.
Speaker 1:My hair hasn't been doing it around the office, so if I got a sure thing Now I can see that Maybe John McClane is just a really good. He's a very giving, very giving.
Speaker 2:His giving to receiving ratio.
Speaker 1:Three to one no, he's not a giving lover. I highly doubt that. Three to one no, I've never met him.
Speaker 2:He's not a giving lover, but I'm sure he seems physically capable, he seems like he, you know.
Speaker 1:So he's just athletic enough, he just wants to be thrown around the room.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's enough for him. These West Coast guys, they just want to choke you or whatever, but they're not strong enough to to get you, to get you around the room. It's you where you need to be. Yeah, they just want to choke you or slap you or something. It's like come on, I lift me up and and fuck me against the wall. They can't lift you up. They're too coked out. They can't concentrate long enough fantastic, all right.
Speaker 1:Well, we're figuring out a lot about john mcclain in this episode. He's got a really weird situation going on um, he's pretty focused.
Speaker 2:He's got an okay sense of humor.
Speaker 1:Good enough of a lover, the best lover she could get to in the corporate world um, yeah, and you know, I always got to insert myself into the a main role and I think, uh, I'd be wearing shoes, I wouldn't be shooting from the hip that guy tells you that, what do you?
Speaker 2:what do you say when that guy tells you to do that on the plane?
Speaker 1:I'd be like, okay, hey, that's cool man, uh. But see, but I'm a generally charismatic and likable guy, so I would like make him feel heard. I'd be like, hey, that's really cool, and I'm happy that that works for you, and then I would never consider it. I, I would get off the plane, um, I wouldn't be doing the thing he said you'd look at the carpet, look at the car.
Speaker 1:That's okay um, and uh, yeah, then it would be, uh, if these, so the guys that he was up against, they were just as action movie as he was. Right, they were out of their fucking minds, yeah, and so what would take place after that would be a bunch of very smart murders. You know, like I'm not running out there shoeless, or anything like that. It would just be like I'm going to out there shoeless, or anything like that. It would just be like I'm gonna get right down here in this little corner, here's one terrorist, the patau. He's dead. Um, because I'm aiming. You see, I use this site that's on the top here.
Speaker 2:Um, that's what that's for seems like it could be useful yeah, I'm gonna use this site to begin with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, it would be like you know, have you ever? You know you don't have kids, but like if you ever take a bunch of children to like laser tag have I ever taken no, but I've been to laser tag so it would be like taking a bunch of children to laser tag, um, where you know you got this thing up here on your cheek. You're using the site. Oh, there's one, he's dead. There's one he's dead while they're trying to do this weird thing. Um, like the german.
Speaker 2:You turn this into a serious, kill as many people as efficiently as possible. You do that with every movie it'd be over in 10 minutes.
Speaker 1:Mine would also be very fast.
Speaker 2:How would you if you inserted yourself into elizabeth town? How would you? How would you change that?
Speaker 1:all right, so it'd be like you got this thing up here and you just um, we need to stop watching movies where it's solved with gunplay, um, um, but like that whole table scene, I'd just shoot him you, just, you would just quietly sit in one area and shoot people as they come through the door.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be the whole movie. It would cut it down to about 40 minutes. As soon as you got, as soon as you got, a precision rifle, you just sit in one place every once in a while I talk to alan how you guys doing in there.
Speaker 1:You want to come in and handle this yet, or I don't know I shot a kid, but you gotta forgive me, alan.
Speaker 2:No, maybe you shouldn't be a police officer anymore, alan. Maybe, maybe, do, maybe. Do a job where you don't have a gun. You shot a kid. Go somewhere, do something else. Be a manager at a jimmy johns or something, I don't know, but you should not be a cop anymore.
Speaker 1:Oh, hold on alan. So alan, a terrorist just rolled in and I shot him in the head and he wasn't a child he was an adult man.
Speaker 2:He was an adult man with a real gun with a real gun.
Speaker 1:I don't know if you've ever seen one of those. They look very different, um so oh excuse me, Alan.
Speaker 2:Alright, so there's another one.
Speaker 1:They keep coming at me.
Speaker 2:Unless he's a balding child.
Speaker 1:They keep running at me with their gun on their hips. They fire at me, but it just fucking hits around me.
Speaker 2:It's a kind of force field.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, yeah, so it's like I have a force field. They sent the hockey puck thing at me, but I just kind of kicked it back still came through the door.
Speaker 2:They always come through the door it's very weird.
Speaker 1:when this dude tried to kick me, I shot him. Yeah, that's how it would be. I'd be sitting in a corner shooting terrorists as they ran in the room and trying to convince Alan that he shouldn't be a police officer. You killed a child, and killing a terrorist today does not change that. Yeah seriously. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:You know what it's also, that also fits into the golden path of redemption through the having them there because they save your, they're willing to shoot someone for you. It's the same thing, it's the same kind of. They deserve redemption because where would you be without them? Someone would have killed you in.
Speaker 1:In that particular instance, where we were surrounded by fbi lapd, any one of those guys would have recognized that the man about to shoot us A, not a child. Two, that gun is real. Three, I'm going to shoot him now.
Speaker 2:Also, that never would have happened because a bunch of FBI people, you know, and police officers surrounding the building wouldn't be like ah, we got him, everybody dust off, we don't have to clear the building or anything. Everything's good. We all. We did it, mission accomplished, let's good. We did it, mission accomplished, let's all load up.
Speaker 1:No Room by room. Clear this bitch. I don't believe that the NYPD guy got them all and we're going to double check.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly Stupid.
Speaker 1:That's how it would be different, there'd be a lot more precision killing.
Speaker 2:You gotta forgive the cops that shoot children yeah shooting people for the right reasons, just made a mistake I just I'm just trying to shoot people out here.
Speaker 1:I'm a good man, I just want to shoot the right people and I fucked up one time.
Speaker 2:I'm shooting people on the right side Of the law. If you fire me, I'm gonna have to shoot people for the criminals, and you don't want that.
Speaker 1:But it's like dude, alan. I appreciate that it was a mistake, dude, but that kid Is just dead now.
Speaker 2:Yeah maybe that kid was going to grow up to be a police officer who didn't shoot any children get the fuck out of here, alan, go home.
Speaker 1:Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it was an accident, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Find another job like look, I can appreciate that it was an accident. That's cool. Find another job you.
Speaker 1:You're not a cop anymore. That time is gone. I'm sorry go work it up for you yeah, you're gonna find a job where we don't put a gun in your hands, because when we do, you shoot children.
Speaker 2:Please stop.
Speaker 1:Then it'd be hold on. Alan, I just shot another adult man who meant me harm. I will sleep tonight if I could fix things with my wife, which I plan on doing through conversation and therapy, and that's how it would change.
Speaker 2:Perfect, I think, then, I think then it would definitely still be a holiday classic and not people being like what the fuck is this movie, what the fuck is this?
Speaker 1:movie. This is the strangest shit I've ever seen somebody get my wife online.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm so sorry I didn't support you in your career. You know I'm seeing you here working with all these you know high power people. I see you're really in your element. I should have been, you know I should. You here working with all these you know high-powered people? I see you're really in your element. I should have been, you know.
Speaker 1:I should have been more supportive.
Speaker 2:LA is a great town. What I've seen of it, I think I'm going to move out of here.
Speaker 1:I'd like to come out here and I'd like to support you as well. I'm sure LA Hold on, babe. I'm sure LAPD Some guy was just firing at the hip at me missed every shot, but I'm sure LAPD has a spot for me. Fuck, I'm sure fucking any town surrounding LA.
Speaker 2:I was just talking to a child killer they hired.
Speaker 1:so I mean we can make this work. If you want to make this work, let's make it work. I'm happy to support your dreams, hold on Hold on Ben. It's weird German dude just trying to high kick me Also not a child, alan.
Speaker 2:And that's how it would be so this movie got a four.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this movie gets what we got a four.
Speaker 1:But I think that we gotta watch some good movies that all of us are gonna love soon, because something's got to beat this fucking has to be well, but I think, though, that our system speaks to the fact that we could not like a movie. Us is, you know, you and me and it be it's an alright movie, like you know, yeah, I think it speaks to that. Like, yeah, like yeah, I'm going gonna rewatch Die Hard a couple more times. Am I gonna be excited about it? No, do I think Alan needs to be fired immediately? Yeah, do I think Bruce Willis should bring his weapon up to his eye and talk to his wife yeah, I do probably a good idea both on both counts um.
Speaker 1:Should you listen again?
Speaker 2:I don't know. I don't know. There's something about this movie that I don't get. I don't get it. Please, somebody fucking explain it to me. I don't get it. Please somebody fucking explain it to me. I don't get it.
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Speaker 2:did you know diehard was adapted from a book?
Speaker 1:yes, I did actually I didn't know that I'm gonna honestly wonder if the book's fucking boring. You know what? Uh was also adapted from a book featuring bruce willis. The fifth element yeah, I didn't know that, I just took a guess yeah, the fifth element and wow, honestly, I would rate fifth element above diehard yeah, we've.
Speaker 2:We've watched a lot of movies that I would rate above diehard, but it was before the rating system we just don't have any, we have to watch another really good movie to knock diehard out of the top position. Actually, did Starship Troopers Also get a four?
Speaker 1:I believe it did. I don't know it might have. Yeah, go back. Starship Troopers is when we first started Doing the rating system, wasn't it?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that was the one we started on. We got to watch another really good movie.
Speaker 1:We need a five.
Speaker 2:We need to find a high and dry five. Yeah, I think I think galaxy quest might be it if we watch that one. Really, you think so I.
Speaker 2:I bet luke hasn't seen it, luke doesn't he said he doesn't watch a lot of comedy movies and uh, that one's, you know, a little bit of a cult movie it is. We watched the other movie that our movie group watched last. We just watched the Faculty, which everybody loved. We had three people who had never seen the Faculty and one who'd only maybe seen it once. We watched the Faculty and had a really good time.
Speaker 1:More fun than Die Hard and Trap. We had a great time.
Speaker 2:Because that's what I thought when we were watching Trap. I was like man, I really wish this was the Faculty.
Speaker 1:I find when I watch most movies, I'm God. I wish this was the Faculty Jon Stewart gets his fingers cut off and they all scurry away. At least we can laugh at it.
Speaker 2:It was a really playful movie. The movie was like it wasn't, it wasn't up in some ass. It was really playful about everything, which made it fun yeah.
Speaker 1:Hey, well, well, that's the goal. Um, I think, uh, the goal from now on, listeners at home. Uh, we're gonna try and bring you high and dry fives and uh, because we we watch movies lately and like, wow m night, jesus christ, dude, what the fuck? Stop writing movies, just direct it man, just stop it man. So, yeah, I think that should be the goal. Um, next episode after this so this is christmas eve. You're talking about die hard. You're probably watching die hard while you do it. Um, the next episode after that will be trap, and then after that, I thought it was gonna be muppets, christmas, carol, or was that?
Speaker 2:is that not gonna happen now? Well, I'm too far behind, that could be our new year's movie.
Speaker 1:We'll try, we'll do our best. I'm totally down because that'll be a five for me okay I can tell you right now do what?
Speaker 2:what new year's movies are there? Like? Is get him to the greek? A new year's movie? I can't remember if that's don't make me watch that I don't want to watch it.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'm just trying to think of new year's movies muppet, christmas, carol, it is all right, everybody. Hey, thanks for listening. This is high and dry podcast. I'm ryan baron north, with me, as always, james grassland. Uh, bye bye.
